$265,000 number Clinton's Speech AdvaMed RTI Biologics Tutogen
A seemingly small but interesting lead of mine just turned out to be a whale of a catch. Hillary Clinton was paid 265,000 dollars by AdvaMed for a single speech. It turns out a member of AdvaMed is RTI Surgical which, while then known as RTI Biologics, illegally harvested dead bodies for bone marrow, organs, and tissue from the Ukraine to sell for a profit. Tutogen was their German division that was caught also using tissue stolen from dead corpses in the Ukraine. Many of the corpses they used also were riddled with diseases and negatively hurt the people who got transplants of their organic materials. It should be noted, Hillary took these peoples money after all this had already come out about them.
Haiti
RTI Biologics also donated allografts to Haiti after the earthquake in 2010, probably to try to get some more illegal tissue from there.
BioFlorida PhRma Shkreli
But there is more! I have discovered a group that encompasses Tavistock, RTI Surgical and other shady groups. It is called BioFlorida. While it admittedly has a ton of members and many of the lower paying ones are probably honest businesses their premiere member list reads like a whose-who of pharma corruption. One is PhRma whose president Stephen Ubl used to work for AdvaMed. When PhRma went after Martin Shkreli the "bad boy" of pharma got pissed off. Apparently even he thought that he didn't hold a candle to the likes of BioFlorida members like PhRma and Amgen.
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4warned ago
Remember how they dismissed David Daleiden as fake news? He exposed the fact that PP was selling toStem express- the company that buys baby parts . They endorsed Hillary for president. http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/25/stemexpress-ceo-endorses-hillary-clinton-shes-getting-elected-its-a-done-deal/ And, John Boehner's health policy director in 2015 name is Charlotte Ivancic. Her little sister is Kate Dyer, founder of Stem Cell Express http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/17/boehners-health-policy-director-is-sister-of-stemexpress-founder/ Blood Money. Here's an article of the donations given by Planned Parenthood affiliates to Clinton as of April.. http://liveactionnews.org/hillary-clinton-money-trail-proves-favorite-abortion-industry/
anonOpenPress ago
Looking at the post content this is suspicious. A comment with 63 upvotes DELETED adds to the suspicious. Definitely not worth a "New Evidence" flair. Please revaluate, as we don't want to give an expression of using very loose / non-existing connections as evidence. Not sure who added the flair, pinging @wecanhelp @sensitive @Vindicator?
Vindicator ago
Thanks for the ping, @anonOpenPress. I believe this post was made before we had fully instituted the current submission guidelines, as well as the requirement of mods to leave a comment when making a flair with their reasoning, and when we were still tweaking the flair set. As a result, the way the OP has written it forcing the user to click and read all the links to fully understand the supporting evidence for his thesis is not optimal. I would have asked him to edit it to spell out each step, rather than just stringing together a bunch of links. Overall, though, my sense is this user is a legit researcher.
I would not have given this a "New Evidence" flair, either, @sensitive. I believe this might be worth a "Potential Lead" flair, though. He's provided links that show Clinton was paid by AdvaMed, that RTI is a member of AdvaMed, and the Daily Mail article showing
I wish all research submissions were this well sourced. Yes, this is a string of circumstantial evidence. No, it's not proof of a conclusion. But it most certainly is the kind of lead that we want posted and flaired as such to encourage further investigation, in my opinion. This is what v/pizzagate is all about.
Regarding the comment with 63 upvotes deleted
I agree, that is very suspicious and needs looking into. Mods are not allowed to remove comments anywhere on Voat except under very particular circumstances. It appears to have been a comment by /u/Michael86: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1624197/7932853 if I am reading the comment thread correctly. They seem to have been discussing MF removing posts. Apparently MF was pinged in one of the deleted comments, but did not post a reply in the thread.
To confirm whether the comment was removed by a mod or the user, I just looked at this thread, in which I suggested Psychanaut remove her comment reply and it does not specify that the comment was removed by the user, but the comment also does not show up in the removed comments area 26 days ago, where it would go if a moderator deleted it. I suspect this is due to the User Agreement, which says
I also tried a making and deleting a test comment in one of my own submissions, and it looked exactly the same. However, I'm a mod, so that test is inconclusive. AnonOpenPress, you should make a comment somewhere you are not a mod and delete it, see whether it specifies [deleted by user] or just [deleted], and look in the Removed Comments area to see if it shows up.
anonOpenPress ago
"Potential lead" would fit there nicely, as there is a great effort to try to follow the money - which is about the best way to dig into the truths.
About the deleted comment, if there's any mod deleting either his own or user comments without explaining why, I would suggest a serious discussion in open, or (as a last option) simply to drop such mod to avoid any further problems.
For the test you asked @Vindicator, it's another reply to your above comment I just posted and deleted.
Vindicator ago
Re-flaired.
I agree completely regarding mod removal of comments. Technically, our conversation here is in the open, of course. The place for additional discussion is v/pizzagatemods if you feel like you want to make a post there. Based on your test, though, as well as my experiment, I think Michael86 removed the comment himself.