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heretolearn ago

um...fuck destabilization. let the whole truth come out. we need destabilized shit to happen. otherwise it's just more of the same bullshit dressed in sunday clothing.

edit: just wanna say, this thread has sparked some great info and conversation. thanks for posting op.

Gorillion ago

I agree that this shit needs to be out there. But I don't believe it'll destabilize us. We're resilient. The majority of us smelled something was off, badly off, about Hillary. We're not children. We can be trusted to handle it.

We'll get angry, for sure. We'll demand the death penalty. But we need this. We need to face what's been going on. And we're not going to descend into chaos if we see justice, hard justice, served. In fact I think it would be a massive cultural bonding experience for The West in general.

samhara ago

It's so obvious they spread the story "But of course, *we all know it, but we can't tell *them because chaos would surface and our country would be destroyed" ; Which is an obvious self - serving lie! They love to hoax. They love to lie and they love to trick the suckers. They told the insiders that about JFK too. But any boob could tell the JFK line was a total joke. People just don't know how to think.. .And believe me, the perpetrators / jokers do not want anyone to learn!

I believe it's possible that the only reason any of the Pizza revelation has come about is because many harden killers, criminals, mobsters can't stand to know children are being hurt.

Trouble is: when you pull on a thread the whole sweather becomes unraveled. They work very hard to keep people dumb. It's been very successful.. Why ruin a good thing? Dunno.

Using 9/11 as a blackmail tool seems so ridiculous because it's anyway so obvious, on its face.

Votescam ago

Agree with your thoughts -- but they'd have to have some evidence about 9/11 to release. Not just "Hey, they did it!"

samhara ago

Perhaps better just to read text. They put "Morgan Reynolds" name on that vid and I'm uncertain it's even his. - https://vimeo.com/92612055#at=27 - Here's one for sure his since it's on his site. "We Have Some Holes in the Plane Story" - https://nomoregames.net/2006/03/05/we-have-some-holes-in-the-plane-stories/ - Morgan Reynolds 2006 - With researchers it's on-going and sifting of evidence.. I did the research on the "plane witnesses." Morgan did not.

It was not holograms.

The trajectories of the cartoon airplanes in the different vids do not match.. YouTube has taken down the large and complete collection of vids from that day, many years ago by now. Perhaps they will surface. I know people with Media jobs came up to me when I was passing out fliers and told me they had material which had not been released and which they share among themselves.. So it's possible the video will all surface.. The controlled opposition wants everyone who's figured out that the physics of the event is wrong, to solve the problem with holograms..

They are desperate that the role of the Media Trickery be hidden. It's important to them that the extent of Mass Media mind control be denied. Once people realize it, they will not have the power which they have now.

The sick perpetrators [Perp Traitors] main tool of control is the Mass Media, and they own it all.

Free Falling Bodies: Simple Physics Reveals The Big Lie" - https://nomoregames.net/2006/06/02/free-falling-bodies-simple-physics-reveals-the-big-lie/ - "What I finally Understood. " The role of the Media Stars / Shills and the Alt Media Guru-s - http://mileswmathis.com/guru.pdf -

Votescam ago

samhara -- I didn't look at your video links because I know there were no planes -- Though what they did to the reporter they sent to cover the Pentagon -- and he was there long before any story of a "plane" hitting -- finally they just forced him to deny his story. Name is Jamie McIntyre if I recall correctly. You can probably still catch his video where he is standing outside the Pentagon repeating over and over again "No plane hit the Pentagon." And, of course, it didn't. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jamie+McIntyre%2FCNN+at+the+Pentagon+9%2F11

Yep - it's still there! McIntyre was there very early and he knew there was no plane.

The number of Americans who still trust our MSM/Fake News is dwindling very quickly -- you see that attitude on the internet every day. But they don't always carry that attitude over to 9/11. And I think it's because of the fake videos. Otherwise they have to admit that they weren't only lied to on 9/11, but that the networks used FAKE VIDEO to lie to them. That's the hard part for them to get over.

Thank you for your time with the links -- I find that when I get off the notification page, I lost posts. But, I'm with you -- 9/11 was a fake.

Now, let's get to the "moon landing" -- and the JFK, Jr. murder by plane.

:)

Plus

samhara ago

I have loads and loads of evidence and arguments and have spent double 10K hours over 13 years. The Forum I worked on, in a group effort, was defaced and vandalized Dec 10th, soon after I began linking my Pizza research over here; and soon after the viewer count doubled. The easiest proof is this: The Mass Media was in on it. They were reading scripts. An airplane can not fly through a wall and not break to pieces. An airplane can not hit a wall and not crush. An airplane is not Caspar the Ghost.. It's not top secret. It's right in front of everyone . That is the best evidence. But there is much more evidence. And the evidence that it was done by the alleged 19 hijackers: 100% missing, except for what was poorly fabricated.. Once you understand the premise: That everything you know about it you were told by the Mass Media.. And once you realize they were in on it, then everything will fall into place. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4d2Mt2a6iM - Here are the bona fide-s of Morgan Reynolds - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Reynolds -

Votescam ago

Agree with you completely - They are cowards and only violence brings them to power. Propaganda of lies, stolen elections, assassinations/murders.

When the public understands how betrayed they have been by MSM, it will be a very happy day!

:) Keep on tellin' it!!

samhara ago

I don't agree with the YouTube vid I linked above - It claims Israel is behind it which is not true.. There are many nationalities involved. The "Neo-Cons" are not Jews, but belong to their own cult which is gay [homosexual] and secret.

Whoever made the vid is trying to blackwash the info as "anti - Semitic" Truth is I think England Bankers and German Bankers are much more behind it than "Israel" [Palestine] Truth is : England royals and English created Israel and Zionism. English Jews.. Honestly many alleged "Jews" are not practicing and believing Jews, but have some other allegiances. I'll try to find a better vid but its not easy with my site gone.

Destroyer_of_Worlds ago

One can only remain stable for so long if the economy decides otherwise.

Don't get me wrong though, I am 100% in favor of traversing this rabbit hole as far as it goes regardless of how horrific things become as it almost assuredly will be necessary for things to get worse before they get better. IMO, exposing the entirety of the truth remains necessary if we truly want as much justice as is possible in this life.

Votescam ago

Agree with those who are for "all out" -- and that includes everything -- The human/child/organ trafficking is the most emotional and urgent, of course -- but so much more corruption. George Webb/YouTube has been very helpful there.

We have to understand that economies are created by the people -- but they are manipulated by financial institutions, banks, for the benefit of the few.

We have to stop cooperating with capitalism, stop funding it.

samhara ago

The truth is very easy. It's lies that need a lot of work. That's why these assholes can never rest.

From "Obama's Geneology" by Miles Mathis "I was recently asked [] how I stay sane. I told him he was asking the wrong question. The question is how all the people who don't know the truth stay sane. The answer is, they don't. It is being caught in the Matrix that drives you insane. It is the blue pill that causes insanity, not the red pill. The truth can be painful, and sometimes be temporarily disorienting. But it is the lies that cause permanent disorientation, and eventual insanity. The truth, however painful, is clarifying. "

bopper ago

Nicely put.

heretolearn ago

100% agreed. the truth won't break us as a nation.

samhara ago

They tell that as a lie to excuse their ""shhhhhhhhhhh" but don't scare the children."

Give me a break Please.

It's an old Propaganda boring saw they bring out to excuse their lies and complicity: "They can't take the truth"

Yeah, sure sure.. tsh.

remedy4reality ago

Why do you and others have the view that this all ends with Hillary? The CIA, FBI, Judiciary, Police Forces, Politicians, charities, business leaders and media are all COMPLICIT.

Votescam ago

True, but what's above Royalty? Once you've reached level of British Royals, who are the higher ups? This nation has been thoroughly betrayed -- from the Constitution to Operation Mockingbird -- which has to be linked with Operation Paperclip and Operation Gladio in order to understand the total effect and total betrayal. This stuff was being written two years before the end of WWII and was then run out of the CIA under Allen Dulles. Essentially the German Gestapo was brought here as the CIA -- WWII hasn't ended yet.

After that, it's taken a great deal of right wing violence to keep all of this covered up and the assassinations, black jobs have continued on and on.

Consider that the stuff that's above top secret -- about nuclear codes, etal -- is Roswell/UFO stuff - ET's. Some of them quite nasty as some tell us.

Links -- See: Operation Mockingbird — scroll down to “History” — which was being written two years before the end of WWII.

See: Operation Paperclip — Wiki’s figures are low — at the minimum 64,000+ which included families but more likely 200,000 according to Kay Griggs/YouTube.

See: Operation Gladio — US program to keep right wing governments in place in the countries over which they had control after WWII — Germany, Japan, Italy. In Italy, US actually resurrected the Mafia in order to ensure the plan would be carried out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

remedy4reality ago

great information -- I am familiar with all of it. Yes, it's a monster we are facing.

samhara ago

They all give their consent . Yes! And they only are planning to arrest 72, according to the informant.. So that will not cover it all, by any measure.. So they will be playing "musical chairs" .. I'll tell you who *my favorites are.. I 'm making a list but just didn't have time today.

It's not just 9/11 - its the whole fake "War on Terror" - These staged events have stopped since Trump came in, and I think they will not re-start..All they can afford now for their staged Propaganda is the random alleged hate crime. They just don't have the budget now.

Even with all the money Soros and the Rothschilds possess, they will only be able to do little ones ["terror events"], having no longer the backup of Homeland Security, FEMA , and the Military.

If you don't think there has been a long list of staged "Project Gladio" - style events? You better get more abreast of the rackets they are pulling.. And without the Pedophilia - and the sado - pedophilia, they may never have been able to get this far with their idiocy..

remedy4reality ago

Within 5 minutes of popping the lid off PG I knew how 9/11 and all the false flags were pulled off. I always suspected blackmail was used and had been aware of the Franklin Scandal since it broke when I was in college, but that was the Eureka moment for me. You're right, without the consent of the President, domestic false flags will grind to a halt and move abroad ( Canada ).

crystalclearme ago

This has become so crystal clear to increasing numbers of people and it in a way seems to be stalling at the current level of idiocy since inauguration. I lost heart when I saw FBI anon expected number of arrests as it is clear those are not even close to the number of people needing to be arrested. Hoping it is just a start. The media is the clog in draining the swamp