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remedy4reality ago

Iceland has done very well since it locked up its criminal politicians and bankers.

Let's get real, the only adverse effects to disclosing the truth will be to those who have sown the LIES.

MeeestaTraumaLlama ago

Boom! Well said.

samhara ago

Too bad I can't give you mega - points.

markrod420 ago

Everyone always uses Iceland as their example. You know if we only have a few hundred thousand people you would be AMAZED at the changes we could make. But we don't. We have a few hundred million people instead.

remedy4reality ago

and we have a proportional GDP to accommodate them...

I really hate this weak and common rebuttal to Iceland or any other system that works.

The United States Federal Government is a disgrace to its people and so are the Banks.

It has nothing to do with scale-ability and everything to do with ethics.

samhara ago

Maybe they've got more balls / chutzpa? Less arrogance?

markrod420 ago

Hey I hate the federal govt. But enacting change among 400 million people is a lot harder than enacting change with 300 thousand. I don't mean monitarily. I mean just in general.

remedy4reality ago

We're talking about locking up criminals who commit criminal acts and preventing legislation that legalizes criminality, not radically changing the lives of 330 Million people ( although it would have a tremendous positive impact for the entire country ).

Really... if the entire government is corrupt, and IT IS... then exactly just what is at risk ?

markrod420 ago

Massive economic collapse and social disorder. I live near a city. A big one. The prospect is pretty bad.

samhara ago

That's just bullshit. The civil unrest is deliberate. That's how they hide.

markrod420 ago

Deliberate or not it would still happen

samhara ago

That is just what people are told by the Powers that Be. They convince people of that so they will never be caught and so it will always be their "business as usual" If things are set right, no one will be pissed.. Everyone will be releved, joyous and hopeful not to be subject to their vicious nightmare projection. This is another fear-porn, another nightmare projection onto peoples' minds.

samhara ago

Can you prove that? That is just an excuse to keep the liars fooling the shddpies.. If the perps were caught. No one would be pissed. If the perps are still smiling on TV , yes, people might be pissed - especially at the heads of the TV networks and the Media Corporation. They are lynch pin to the operation. In Africa, it is said, when a population found they were punked with the ";War of the Worlds" fake alien broadcast - are said to have torn up the radio station. Americans though, no, very passive. They may or may not have really "bought" the broadcast - they were just told everyone bought it. People are told what "everyone believes" what "everyone will do" and it's not usually correct. Because they are liars, know hypnotism, know how to suggest things and know how to work a crowd.

markrod420 ago

You make a fair point. And I'm not actually completely certain that it would happen. But I don't think it's impossible that it would happen. Don't forget there's an entire world of corrupt out there. If we as a nation collectively get out heads out of our asses we are now at odds with 95% of the first world.

IPleadThe2nd ago

Get out at the first sign of trouble.

bopper ago

No kidding. If you've been through a natural disaster you know.

Theupsidedown ago

Maybe that's only because there were still some good guys at the top.

If the US is completely fucked with nothing but bad guys at the top, you can see how it might not be as peaceful of a transition as Iceland.