Is there a compiled list of celebrities, intellectual figures and Gov. employees that disavowed PizzaGate?
I listen to a variety of podcasts and most of them seem to at least acknowledge something is funny. Some of these people aren't exactly stupid and are considered the elite of modern thinking. Since I heard this, I've been seriously questioning how deep pizza gate actually goes.
What I think we need to create is a list of people that have come out and quickly shot down this with out any actual reading or defense. Dig through and find pod-casters/celebrities/intellectuals that have came out and actually called it fake news, not people who are on the sidelines untill more information has come out.
The person I am speaking of is Sam Harris. I've heard him twice, in two different podcasts now, brush this off saying it's fake news.
Now, to Sam's defense, he said paraphrased, "Nobody is trafficking kids through comet ping pong, this is fake news"
While Sam might be right, this just seems to be some sort of Genie/Bill Clinton use of diversion.
Yes, the Ping pong story might of been put there so we focus our efforts on it. It is most likely not true about comet, that still does not mean there isn't a HUGE operation going on that does not involve CPP. Which he never actually mentions or even tries to dig in. This, even if I am horribly wrong, sounds fishy and rubs me the wrong way. Specially for Sam who is capable of looking at information. No mention of hidden dialect in emails either.
This list isn't for demonizing, it's for watching. The more connections we have to look at, the better job we can do. I don't know if Sam fucks kids, but he sure does not seem to care that it's going on and made a point to say its fake multiple times.
So, I am nominating Sam Harris for the list of people that called Pizzagate fake news.
Sam Harris does so in this podcast starting at 16:30: https://soundcloud.com/samharrisorg/trumping-the-world
In the same sentence he also mentions russia hacked our election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUnc0PJqdw Another snippet, the other podcast where i can't find exactly where it is but I know is is from Abusing Dolores podcast with Paul Bloom
Another that threw me through a loop, but how fast and energetic he was about this was a friend of Joe Rogans and even has his own podcast called , "The fighter and the kid" actor/comedian Bryan "the Kid" Callen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx3ZMBO9vVQ
Anything below this will be my edit section to update as we add names.
People that came out against pizzagate, PODCASTERS:
Sam Harris,
Bryan Callen
People that came out against pizzagate, CELEBRITIES:
Pamela Anderson
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apostle_s ago
So no, Pope Francis said nothing about Pizzagate; his comments could just as easily be used against The NY Times, The Sun, or CNN. Gossip and slander/libel are hurtful activities and are certainly wrong; there are lots of ways to punish guilty people without spreading lies about the innocent or constantly dwelling on the negative. Yes, the people behind these pedo scandals should be drawn and quartered, but if all you do is dwell on things like that 24/7, it will destroy you as well.
Also remember that the Pope comes from Argentina, and lived through some incredibly violent times in that country, where the media was a full on propaganda machine and tool of the dictatorship.
FakeNewzIsFake ago
So, taking your message into consideration.
Do you believe he belongs on the list?
Let's take another view at this also to see if he needs to be removed or stay.
People that aren't nessessarly doing the kid fucking themselves, but protecting people who are, which the Catholic church is famous for doing.
Should people who protect Pedophiles be considered pedo's themselves in some sort of way? Is it deserving to be on here?
apostle_s ago
If you look at the documentation, most of the cases presented from the 1950's - 1980's were actually brought before law enforcement, who told the bishops to handle it; the church then responded with the common practice of the time, which was to move them "away from the situation" in the assumption that a change of scenery would change their behavior (obviously, we understand the behavior better now).
In the couple of the cases where there was an actual cover-up (more likely than not for PR reasons), then obviously those involved should be punished as well. Popes Benedict and Francis have been forceful (Francis has gone off about it a couple of times) in their condemnation of all of those involved, as was Christ when He said "it would be better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea".
Edit: Typing on mobile sucks
FakeNewzIsFake ago
Yea, I am still thinking about this one.
I am not sure I trust anything they say, regardless how adamant they are about it. He might end up getting removed though, I kinda wanted to leave this up to you guys.
apostle_s ago
There is a ton of documentation, from the John Jay report to Catholic historians writing about it; believe me when I say that Catholics are generally more pissed about it than non-Catholics. The way I know that both Popes are absolved is that, because the Church is so big, there are people who can't stand one or the other and would happily point out any involvement.