This is a class act piece of work. The real thinkers in this world are onto something big. The combination of these efforts will be historic. Harvard has done us a good one with this paper published a couple years ago.
A great quote:
"the idea that the missionaries were acting to “save” these
children justified the damage they would have caused to the children and
their families. In this way, the Silsby case offers a window into international
and domestic child placement schemes that disrupt poor families and
disregard traditional forms of child placement"
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jangles ago
Did this happen in Yugoslavia?
MAGABoomer ago
This happened in Spain on a fairly large scale and just came to light last year I believe. Uncertain of Yugo, but wherever any "church" is, expect this issue. They believe they know best. Hundreds of babies were stolen from mothers the "church" decided were unworthy and given to other families. To this day I have no idea where a great uncle came from. He was literally handed to my ggramma in the hospital and told he was her child now. (She had several still births)...no one has a clue where they got this baby. It was a catholic hospital.
jangles ago
Both ethnic groups of Spain and Yugoslavia are rh-. Good for organ trafficking too.
MAGABoomer ago
That's a whole bloodline asshattery that is a conspiracy about a conspiracy that isn't a conspiracy but an evolutionary handicap. In Spain it is typically the Basque who carry the RH-. Rh- is used by people as some sort of specialness gene. It's not, it's actually an evolutionary stop-gap that we have by passed with modern medicine. Once that mutation shows up in a family group over time that family group will die completely out UNLESS...they breed with each other. Otherwise Rh- is a death sentence. Literally..for both mother and child.
If the apocalypse came and survival were an issue, literally Rh- would die completely out UNLESS they interbred. it's not an asset, it's a survival handicap. I was studying one European family that has a lot of Rh- showing up now. It's easy to pinpoint when the family started to thrive. It's when they figured out, likely by accident and subconsciously that their offspring lived, their families grew...when they married a close relative. Now they can survive with a rogram shot. If you've ever known an rh- woman you know she is an literally an abortion machine without that shot. (UNLESS she breeds with another Rh- person.) It's also very hard on the mother. I have a friend who, when her BC fails she lets her body kill it off and dispose of it rather than get the shot but it is very hard on her physically and I keep telling her to get a more reliable BC because it's not helping her health to keep getting pregnant with what is essentially poison to her body.
jangles ago
Fucking shifty way to try to discredit the notion that rh- organ donors are valuable because the ability to use the organs any person with any blood type. Thinking that this is about the perfect race is conspiracy but the harvest of organs from rh- people has scientific backing. @MEGABoomer are you implying that rh- blood has nothing to do with organ trafficking? If that is the case your fucking stupid
MAGABoomer ago
No I'm saying RH- blood has zero to do with some fuckard bloodline theory. Rh- negative organs would be rarer and of course more in demand. But the whole fucktard "RH- is special" shit is flat out asshattery and fucking stupid. It's not special re-powers or bloodlines, it is in FACT (you know, facts, scientific FACTS) that having Rh- blood is NOT conducive to survival. PERIOD. It's a genetic fuck up, there are probably fewer organs available for Rh- so yeah, there is probably higher trafficking for those people who have RH- and need a transplant and have the money to pay for it.
If you're trying to push the OMG Rh- so spechial...fuck off. It's literally a genetic detriment and without modern medicine those people who are not married to relatives do NOT have children who survive. Fact. Not some stupid ass conspiracy.
Science, catch the fuck UP
http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/blood-transfusion/expert-answers/universal-blood-donor-type/FAQ-20058229
jangles ago
The Rh antigen does not function as a "transplantation antigen," because it is only present on the surface of red blood cells and not on the parenchymal cells of the graft. Patients who have type AB blood are considered universal recipients because they can receive blood or blood products from any other blood type. However, these patients may only donate their blood to patients who have AB blood. Patients who have O blood are considered the universal donors because they can give blood to patients of any other blood type. However, they can only receive blood from patients who have O blood. If the D antigen is absent, the patient is Rh-negative. Therefore, if you are Rh - you are a universal donor. Read the link you provided . http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/blood-transfusion/expert-answers/universal-blood-donor-type/faq-20058229
Here is some more in depth analysis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1852383/ Further, we can talk about the Bombay phenotype present in about 0.0004% of the population - people with the least amount of D antigens include the Basque people, from Spain or even from the ethnic groups in the former Yugoslavia.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3862596/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49787393_Distribution_of_weak_D_types_in_Croatian_population I am saying that these fucks are targeting ethnic minorities to exploit the rh- universal donor characteristic of the rh- blood having no antigens. Further bolstering the benefits of individuals who have rh - blood they have higher concentrations of ceruloplasmin in their blood. This notion does not jive with your bold claim "It's a genetic fuck up" as ceruloplasmin deficiency is actually a problem. http://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/38527612/2011_LopezdeRomana_JTEMB_CuReview.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1485905997&Signature=12WZzWiRIjL5gXMWPDmPyw8X%2BZI%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DRisks_and_benefits_of_copper_in_light_of.pdf
Shut the fuck up if you don't know what your talking about.
MAGABoomer ago
Oh lawd. It's a genetic fuck up. The Law of Nature..survival of the fittest. If this group of people had not figured out that interbreeding helped their kids live and the family lines to survive, they literally would have died out. It's an aberration that people who have it say " I so special" no, it's luck. It is impossible for the Rh- to be a "fittest gene" as they are only able to reproduce offspring AND survive amongst themselves.
Rh- are often immune to things like AIDS but they're immune to AIDS because they have other disorders. Look, you can dance around the special ring all day long and it's never going to be anything more than a dance. The reason there are so many rh- people on this earth right now is because ROGAM. Not because it's a fit gene of survival. Fittest can reproduce with ANYthing.
I have no doubt that targeting ethnic minorities is useful. Look at how many people Bayer/Baxter killed in Croatia? with their faulty vaccine. But fuck if I'm not sick of reading RH- gives me special powers....dude if it were 1900 you wouldn't be here unless your mom married another RH- by LUCK or a family member. Also rushing to Internet research something you BELIEVE but not really KNOWing or understanding the issue at hand isn't helping your case.
In reality rh- has proven not to be the universal donor they thought it was. Strong genes need neither transplants or any machinations to carry the line. Strong genes survive. We have created, via c-section for instance, the SURETY that thousands of women will indeed die in childbirth because we have depended on C-section interventions for women with inadequate pelvises who would have normally died, in childbirth with their child. Our c-section interventions have allowed those mothers to live and pass that gene on to their children. Nature would have taken that gene out had we not intervened. Thus, without c-section technology THOUSANDS of women who unknowingly carry the inadequate pelvis gene are literally going to die. Talk about Children of Men.
So imagine if you will..the apocalypse is here.
Who is going to survive? The fittest. That's nature.That's what humans have been running from. It's what we don't want to believe is true. Without technology the Law of Nature, not natural law...is what dictates who lives and dies. That's all, there's no other magic, it is what it is. Rh- would be minimal in the population without technological interventions because it is a genetic fuckup. If aliens gave it to you...so fucking what, again, without technology, they die. That's all.
jangles ago
All donkeys possess the red blood cell antigen known as donkey factor. http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vmth/local_resources/pdfs/lab_pdfs/UC_Davis_VMTH_Equine_Neonatal_Isoerythrolysis_NI_Info.pdf
MAGABoomer ago
Thanks for the donkey factor. This isn't going to help Rh- people survive if there is no access to rogam. Rh- is not a "survival of the fittest" gene. That's all.
jangles ago
I was calling you an ass (donkey factor). Your unsubstantiated bias and lack of education are apparent in your rhetoric.
MAGABoomer ago
No, ..what it is...is "the truth hurts the Rh- is special snowflakes" and I tend to ignore stupid. Look you can't fix it, it will kill you without modern technology. Now, explain to me how that statement is incorrect? In a low/zero tech world, rh- is NOT survival. It just isn't. Sorry.
jangles ago
Unless rh negative is more resistant to some killer virus, oh wait you pointed that out. You don't understand evolution either, survival. not necessarily fittest. why does dyncorp research Aids and rh - antigens.
MAGABoomer ago
The anti AIDS aspect of RH- is only kicked in if the person already has a horrible killer disease. There's a girl whose case was "baffling" but they sorted it. Look, I realize this is a slam on a sacred cow...but the survival rate of people who have had medical interventions to live (re c-sections for inadequate pelvis or rogam) are not going to live. Those traits only survived due to medical interventions. In societies such as the Basque as a culture they tend to live and marry together and have a high rate of rh-. Their culture will survive. But in cultures in which RH- is rare, I'm sorry, they cannot survive. I don't know what part of they won't live and neither will their offspring without rogam you don't understand. It's a fact. Without other Rh- people to marry RH- women are going to die. Rh- men are going to kill their wives. It is what it is. That gene is not a "fit" gene. A fit gene works with everything, a fit gene is one that strengthens the pool.
I get the whole RH- sacred cow thing, I get that people want it to be true, but I've been in the den of the bloodline families and trust me, they are inbred tools. That's all. That's the only way their dynasty can survive. One of my Merovingian buds is having a surrogate...guess what? He's having trouble finding a surrogate that will deal with the Rh- he carries. Rh- does not make anyone special. It makes them evolutionary expendable. Just like inadequate pelvis. If you can't get the baby out, both you and the baby die, as well as the gene that causes inadequate pelvis. We are in a epidemic of c-sections in the US for a lot of reasons, but an uptick in women who literally cannot give birth is part of it.
Dyncorp is trying to find the reason the rh- protects the girl from AIDS, but the reason less RH- but likely a combination of what she already has and how that antigen works. The kid is fatally ill. Just not with AIDS. They're looking to see if RH had anything to do with the protection. FACT even if it did, you can't just go adding that antigen to people...WTF kind of....stop telling me I don't understand fitness to survive.
If the lights went out (EMP) in the US probably half of the population would die in the first three weeks, and declining but continuing rates for months after. That's all, that's the truth. Anyone who depends on ANY electricity to survive will die the first week. People who depend on insulin will die as soon as their supply runs out...the list is endless. MOST modern humans are technologically dependent healthwise. The prescription industry in the US alone is mind boggling. Anyone who needs medication for survival, blood pressure, heart pills, ANYTHING...you're screwed. Genetically strong lines that do not need those things are going to survive.
jangles ago
@Dressage2 @jem777 @8887766554433221 what do you think of this thread on this board? I think@MAGABoomer is a dumb ass (donkey factor).
8887766554433221 ago
I think our method must be straight forward and easily understood by all... I am having difficulty accessing the thread, as the comment system is fractured and laborious to scroll through.
Surely our findings are at critical mass by this point?
Jem777 ago
@MAGABoomer writes like a adolescent. Make that a dumb ass adolescent who has no critical thinking skills. It is like reasoning with a rock. As far as the thread goes have not read the full paper but if there is Harvard is writing a paper on you in this manner you think being put in charge of the amber alert system would not be a good idea. Now that the connection has been made to the CIA for Silsby include HRC involved with her throughout the years seems like she might just be an operative.
MAGABoomer ago
Truth is painful yes?
jangles ago
@MathPhilo