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jbdigriz ago

So...was she the AG when Obama put a 6 month freeze on refugees in 2011?

If so, this is just another political move for show. She was going to be replaced anyway, so this is a show of loyalty to the powers opposing Trump. Makes a nice news story for them.

And even of she wasn't, this still reeks of hypocracy and showboating.

AreWeSure ago

So...was she the AG when Obama put a 6 month freeze on refugees in 2011?

This did not happen. And of course she wasn't the Attorney General. ????? Do you not know who the recent Attorneys General were?

There was no freeze under Obama. Refugees from Iraq were still coming in. The process was slowed down. People were not stranded at airports due to poor planning Visa holders and green card holders were not affecting.

It's not a move for show, the President doesn't tell the AG how to interpret the law. The AG is the chief lawyer of the land and takes an oath to the Constitution. If she feels the executive actions ordered by the President are lawful, her conduct was appropriate.

jbdigriz ago

Yes, in 2011 Obama put a freeze on processing refugees from Iran.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-trumps-executive-order-is-similar-to-barack-obamas-iran-refugee-ban-but/

It is somewhat different, but it did happen.

AreWeSure ago

The article you link to does not support your contention. Note the big BUT in the headline and the fact that point to the Washington Post's fact checker calling it false.

At the bottom of the Washington Post fact check is this update.

Update: Former Obama administration official Jon Finer denied that any ban in Iraqi refugee admissions was put in place under Obama. “While the flow of Iraqi refugees slowed significantly during the Obama administration’s review, refugees continued to be admitted to the United States during that time, and there was not a single month in which no Iraqis arrived here,” he wrote in Foreign Policy. “In other words, while there were delays in processing, there was no outright ban.”

Another former official, Eric P. Schwartz, the assistant secretary of state for population, refugees and migration at the time, also told The Fact Checker that Trump’s statement is false:

“President Obama never imposed a six-month ban on Iraqi processing. For several months in 2011, there was a lower level of Iraqi resettlement, as the government implemented certain security enhancements. Indeed, as we identified new and valuable opportunities to enhance screening, we did so. Nobody should object to a continual effort to identify legitimate enhancements, but it is disreputable to use that as a pretext to effectively shut down a program that is overwhelmingly safe and has enabled the United States to exercise world leadership. In any event, there was never a point during that period in which Iraqi resettlement was stopped, or banned.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/29/trumps-facile-claim-that-his-refugee-policy-is-similar-to-obama-in-2011/?utm_term=.5b1224acba02

jbdigriz ago

Go back to reddit, sweety. You'll have better luck there.

Seriously, voat must be the shittiest, most thankless CTR assignment ever.

AreWeSure ago

Sorry your falsehoods got exposed.

Nothing personal.

jbdigriz ago

Hahaha! Thanks for the laugh!

You folks really are fun.

Hope you at least get free shitty coffee in your dank cube farm.

Cheers! :D

Wolftrail7272 ago

Haha yeah that dude is a CTR cube slave. Just alert the mods.

AreWeSure ago

No. He did not.

It involved Iraq not Iran. There was no "freeze." They slowed the process because they were making the review more stringent, but the process continued and it was not executed in the chaotic way this order was. I happened to be flying back to NYC Saturday. It was memorable.

Also Giuliani and others have come forward to say Trump asked them to find a way ban Muslims which is unconstitutional.