For sure, no one who gets tortured is able to function at the levels McCain does everyday. Either that or McCain has some great fixers hiding all of his emotional issues that would occur if he was really tortured.
McCain was never tortured he gave up everything like the little weasel he is. Mixed gave him the death penalty for giving up all our aerial flight patterns helping us lose the air war in Vietnam. He also gave up some key strategies platoons were using to help hide in the brush. Fuvking traitor is what he is. Deserves to rot.
Fascinating. I didn't know how bad it got. Can you rustle up a decent source for this stuff? I only ever got the general overview of his shitty service record. Not the deep cuts on the POW camp stuff, only how they probably manufactured his release to make him look like a hero.
There was an interview with someone who was a prisoner at the Hanoi Hilton at the same time he was. This is where we got all the information about his stay there. I wish I could remember the name of the interviewee, and the interviewer and all that shit.
I'm not the OP, but I have seen this info years ago and would have to go digging. Will do it if I find the time. Basically the story is, he was shot down and when he ejected he was pretty badly injured. That's where we get all the hopsital pictures of him and his life long injuries which are what got morphed into the supposed torture. Apparently, torture wasn't needed with him, and everyone and their dogs knew he was leaking all the secret info he could remember. This was particularly bad embarrassing for his dad who was one of the top admirals at the time, which is why they worked super fast to get him out of there.
The interesting thing about McCain being a "war hero" is that he's always been one of the top opponents of releasing records of POWs left behind in Vietnam. Even to the point of yelling at family members going to congress to ask for them to be released. The thinking on this, is that it would lead to him being exposed as a fraud. We'll never know until they get released, but I honestly can't think of an actually good reason for him to be opposed to it.
The only real power we have is investigating and trying to spread the word until it catches fire. Some people have talked about this for decades and no one paid attention, so this may go nowhere too. Anything physically involved is risking your life and the lives of your loved ones.
Agree completely. But as I continued to think about this last night, I realized -- wait! ...
There's a fairly recent Kerry Cassidy/Camelot Project interview with Wm. Tomkins
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94992-Project-Camelot-interviews-William-Tompkins-Selected-By-Extraterrestrials/page4
**(Just to re-emphasize, Tomkins and Kerry discuss Pizzagate.)
**And if you go to that page at Project Avalon you'll see TEXT of the two videos which might be helpful.
Tomkins describes the Nordics as our "cousins" and suggests that they may be able to rescue us... so to speak. Also says the "blues" are good guys, as well -- and have "hairy legs."
If you do decide to scan the TEXT, let me know what you think.
The "hairy legs" comment reminded me of a story by John Mack in one of his books on his exploration of ET's/UFO's via interviews of abductees.
He related that one abductee said that she woke up in her bed to find an alien standing at her dresser and trying on her high heels. Have to say no one in their right mind would relate a story like that if it weren't true! John Mack/Harvard Professor who worked with Budd Hopkins who had a hard time talking him into it, but finally succeeded. Of course, Harvard did all they could to kick Mack out when he actually got into the work and book writing. Mack was killed while on a trip to London while walking home -- first report was hit-and-run-driver, but story has been changed at least once. Shirley MacLaine said there were TWO John Mack's killed that evening by being hit by car.
Kerry Cassidy reports sudden cancelation by Tomkins of additional interview
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94992-Project-Camelot-interviews-William-Tompkins-Selected-By-Extraterrestrials/page4
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bopper ago
Another zinger.
"General feelings on McCain are his entire life was fabricated to get him into office."
MAGABoomer ago
But in all honesty, anyone who ever bothered to look into McCain would know that. He's an unethical asshole and everyone knows it.
bopper ago
Prima Facie.
whitehand ago
For sure, no one who gets tortured is able to function at the levels McCain does everyday. Either that or McCain has some great fixers hiding all of his emotional issues that would occur if he was really tortured.
IDeliverPizza ago
McCain was never tortured he gave up everything like the little weasel he is. Mixed gave him the death penalty for giving up all our aerial flight patterns helping us lose the air war in Vietnam. He also gave up some key strategies platoons were using to help hide in the brush. Fuvking traitor is what he is. Deserves to rot.
Gorillion ago
Fascinating. I didn't know how bad it got. Can you rustle up a decent source for this stuff? I only ever got the general overview of his shitty service record. Not the deep cuts on the POW camp stuff, only how they probably manufactured his release to make him look like a hero.
IndependentInvest ago
There was an interview with someone who was a prisoner at the Hanoi Hilton at the same time he was. This is where we got all the information about his stay there. I wish I could remember the name of the interviewee, and the interviewer and all that shit.
PizzaAccount ago
I've never read much about McCain. Got any source material for your comments?
we_kill_creativity ago
I'm not the OP, but I have seen this info years ago and would have to go digging. Will do it if I find the time. Basically the story is, he was shot down and when he ejected he was pretty badly injured. That's where we get all the hopsital pictures of him and his life long injuries which are what got morphed into the supposed torture. Apparently, torture wasn't needed with him, and everyone and their dogs knew he was leaking all the secret info he could remember. This was particularly bad embarrassing for his dad who was one of the top admirals at the time, which is why they worked super fast to get him out of there.
The interesting thing about McCain being a "war hero" is that he's always been one of the top opponents of releasing records of POWs left behind in Vietnam. Even to the point of yelling at family members going to congress to ask for them to be released. The thinking on this, is that it would lead to him being exposed as a fraud. We'll never know until they get released, but I honestly can't think of an actually good reason for him to be opposed to it.
EDIT: I think this is one of the videos I've watched, not sure, don't have time to watch it right now, but it looks like it: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3duo7e/john_mccain_exposed_by_vietnam_vets_and_pows/
SoonerJJ ago
It's been said that he was nicknamed "songbird"
Ivegotredditcancer ago
Now I understand why the guy can hardly speak. He is literally a puppet.
Arrvee ago
How does one fake being an admiral's son and getting captured by the VC?
catslovejustice ago
Those are true but he wasn't a war hero. http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
SayWhatNOWAY ago
McCain was Berdahl!
pizzaequalspedo ago
I would bet my house on it
bopper ago
John Kerry too.
MAGABoomer ago
For 100% certain Kerry.
Orange_Circle ago
That is one of the biggests truths to ever be spoken. McCain is a traitor.
Votescam ago
May be easier to count those who haven't betrayed us?
ArthurEdens ago
You said it
Votescam ago
OK -- that's two, three or four of us thinking about this -- but what now?
How can something like this possibly be dealt with?
I mean, if you noticed, even Star Wars in what ... 4 or 5 movies so far ... doesn't have aliens!!
Researchers are being harassed -- Kerry Cassidy, George Webb -- how much further can they go?
ArthurEdens ago
The only real power we have is investigating and trying to spread the word until it catches fire. Some people have talked about this for decades and no one paid attention, so this may go nowhere too. Anything physically involved is risking your life and the lives of your loved ones.
Votescam ago
Agree completely. But as I continued to think about this last night, I realized -- wait! ... There's a fairly recent Kerry Cassidy/Camelot Project interview with Wm. Tomkins http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94992-Project-Camelot-interviews-William-Tompkins-Selected-By-Extraterrestrials/page4 **(Just to re-emphasize, Tomkins and Kerry discuss Pizzagate.) **And if you go to that page at Project Avalon you'll see TEXT of the two videos which might be helpful. Tomkins describes the Nordics as our "cousins" and suggests that they may be able to rescue us... so to speak. Also says the "blues" are good guys, as well -- and have "hairy legs." If you do decide to scan the TEXT, let me know what you think. The "hairy legs" comment reminded me of a story by John Mack in one of his books on his exploration of ET's/UFO's via interviews of abductees. He related that one abductee said that she woke up in her bed to find an alien standing at her dresser and trying on her high heels. Have to say no one in their right mind would relate a story like that if it weren't true! John Mack/Harvard Professor who worked with Budd Hopkins who had a hard time talking him into it, but finally succeeded. Of course, Harvard did all they could to kick Mack out when he actually got into the work and book writing. Mack was killed while on a trip to London while walking home -- first report was hit-and-run-driver, but story has been changed at least once. Shirley MacLaine said there were TWO John Mack's killed that evening by being hit by car.
Kerry Cassidy reports sudden cancelation by Tomkins of additional interview http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94992-Project-Camelot-interviews-William-Tompkins-Selected-By-Extraterrestrials/page4