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7765777? ago

Yes I have. To me it seems like part of the set up (like how the 3rd party candidate works), "oh no he's uncontrollable and outsider who won't follow our evil plan! I guess if you vote for him we lose! ;("

Assuming that is true he hasn't been officially initiated - and I haven't seen anything to support him having been initiated into any evil group - he still works for them and not us.

A good example is his connections to Scientology (which like freemasonry is just satanism in disguise).

Don't forget his ties to business and banking - I wonder who has the most power and influence in those two sectors?

If he wasn't controllable and somewhat in on the agendas of those satanists, he wouldn't have gotten nominated.

GeorgeT ago

There is a theory that Trump's spies got hold of the pizzagate information and a lot more and Trump is using this as blackmail - 'If anything happens to me, all the files, photos, videos will be spammed to everyone with a PC or iphone, and the entire government and the country is going down!' That would make Trump untouchable. Look how quickly he signed executive order, terminating TPP without any resistance (believe me guys, TPP was the thing that would end US sovereignty). Do not let anyone tell you that it was no big deal. TPP was NWO gold standard. Hillary was about to sign it on day one! Remember how Michael Flynn tweetet about Hillary's alleged involvement in child trafficking? Who would be bold enough to tweet that unless they had dirt on hard drives by the dozen. Some believe that Trump owns them. To terminate TPP with no resistance makes no sense otherwise.

Black_Jesus ago

considering who he is, its very possible that he has the contents of weiners comp

ObamaFAG1 ago

I think you are 1,000 % correct on this. This is what allows me to sleep like a baby (9 MM on night stand helps too) and know that many good things are coming and the USA will regain what we have lost to these NWO, satanic feces. I have noticed how they are all being nice and Trump has his boot on their neck. I fuckin love this shit.

bopper ago

Yes I believe that is what is going on, at least to a large extent.

7772376? ago

At least he's trying to appear good so you gotta appreciate that.

To terminate TPP with no resistance makes no sense otherwise.

Unless you wanted to lull people into a false sense of security and then quietly reintroduce it hidden inside some innocently titled bill or admendment, at a time when everyone thinks they don't need to check the details of laws passed, because 'hey, he's kept his word so far.'

GeorgeT ago

There is a TiSA that was leaked by Wikileaks in late 2015, and it is a monstrocity. I urge you to look at it. One of the clauses says that the public should no nothing about the bill untill 5 years after it has been passed! Welcome to Democracy.

ObamaFAG1 ago

oh yea, makes total sense.... SAID no one ever

ZalesMcMuffin ago

The price of liberty is vigilance when the other guy is in office.

HashTagFU ago

Satanism is a red herring, meant to misdirect you into believing bullshit while you are being fleeced. Follow the money. It's always about money.

ObamaFAG1 ago

Hashpipe, you need to go and do a LOT more research before vomiting on here again.

HashTagFU ago

Where? On the Internet where every crazy can type their fucked up theories? Tell me more wise one.

ObamaFAG1 ago

I have better things to do than educate old, tired fools like you.

HashTagFU ago

I'm thinking you really don't have anything better to do. Something different and equally meaningless but not better.

ObamaFAG1 ago

YOU are thinking? Pretty dangerous considering your IQ of 37 doesn't qualify you to get on the internet where crazy theories abound, but we all know paid shills and pedophiles like you get special access from David Brock and George Soros.

HashTagFU ago

Lol, I wish I was paid an amount commensurate with how big a dipshit you are. I'd be rich!

ObamaFAG1 ago

Hate is the highest level of flattery, carry on window licker

HashTagFU ago

You're not important enough to hate. You're ... annoying. And since this is the Internet, I can just ignore you. Goodbye chump.

ObamaFAG1 ago

oh but yes I am. You proved that with your attack emails. Getting on the nerves of pedophiles and paid shills is so enjoyable.

Forgetmenot ago

No it's not always about the money. It's about power and sacrificing children to moloch and pedofilia. The money is a positive by product that is used to control the masses. Money is theoritical and the elites know it. It's the masses that have no idea and allow ourselves to be enslaved by it. The end goal is thousands of child sacrifices and sex rituals and hunting parties for entertainment and who knows what else they do in their miserable and bored lives for entertainment.

Forgetmenot ago

No I can only contribute upvoats, I am not an investigator, am awful at computers. The money trail goes cold eventually. It seems

HashTagFU ago

Could be. But you need proof which as far as I can tell you don't have. If you're right, I'd like nothing better than to see the sick fucks doing the shit you're telling me they're doing beaten to death. Until you have actionable proof, that's a pipe dream.

ObamaFAG1 ago

Its ALL a "pipe dream" when you suck on a Hashpipe

slickleg64 ago

Satanism is made up by Christians to demonize non theistic beliefs. Keep seeing anything that conservatives dislike being described as satanic, Its the oldest trick in the book. Read Anton LaVeys satanic bible its a complete joke. Any other form of "satanism" is the doing by seriously deluded people. Youre right about following the money,It's everones religion

bopper ago

Love of money is the root of all EVIL. (Get you some religion!)

Jem777 ago

You have awesome comebacks. Slowly but surely I think everyone involved is getting them some religion!

strix-varia ago

A red herring? Yes, some are seriously misguided. This is all about satanism and the 13 illuminati bloodlines.

HashTagFU ago

13 illuminati bloodlines.

Which are?

strix-varia ago

Bloodlines of the Illuminati....well actually it seems there are more than 13. 13 major ones Read: http://www.whale.to/b/sp/blood.html

7767633? ago

I respectfully disagree. Following the money leads me back there.

HashTagFU ago

To satanism? How?

Chukobye ago

Maybe Moral Relativism? Check out this interview https://youtu.be/DDFjqn_SkqQ

HashTagFU ago

One youtube dude out of tens of millions spouting their own particular reality tunnel. Sorry but I don't get my knowledge from you tube channels. Well at least not esoteric knowledge anyway.

I did learn some carpentry and tiling tricks from youtube though.

Chukobye ago

I was using the youtube video to explain how the satanic angle can't be underestimated. I thought about it while I was listening to this podcast earlier the same day, I provided the youtube version. Consider moral relativism and its implications. What would the people who create and control money want?

7772433? ago

A conversation for /v/conspiracy methinks.

But simply put, satan uses the temptation of money (among other things) to manipulate people.

Theology aside, I can't see how a real "outsider" could possibly ever get in the two party race, let alone win it. I think more is he's likely an 'once removed' insider who is convincingly saying what people want to hear.

HashTagFU ago

Satan is part of Self. As is God. Without "evil" you cannot experience "good". Satan and God are archetypes. Profound impulses that exist within our subconscious mind. Once you start thinking of Satan as a real being, you are essentially worshiping false idols. It's all inside.

paulf ago

I can't see how a real "outsider" could possibly ever get in the two party race, let alone win it.

You just watched it happen in full technicolor. He had the entire media, the entire political establishment and his own party lined up against him.

I think more is he's likely an 'once removed' insider who is convincingly saying what people want to hear.

How many signed executive orders will it take before you trust that his actions match his words?

7772678? ago

How many signed executive orders will it take before you trust that his actions match his words?

"a rule or order issued by the president to an executive branch of the government and having the force of law."

Ehh...∞? I do not like nor trust presidents, governments and force. But feel free to ping me in 4-8 years if you feel the same and would like to try to convince me to trust him.

bopper ago

But you do want a cop to show up when you're about to be beat to hell prob'ly. (I understand though, I see the virtues of 'proper' anarchy.) If you don't trust Trump by now you probably never will. Watch out for confirmation bias. (That goes for me too.)

7792118? ago

No. Fuckin' kidnappers in a uniform. You call them are they'll probably just arrest you for jaywalking when your running away from the guy about to bash you.

Trust has to be earned, and Trump is in an untrustworthy position (not a doctor - a pollie! Which is worse than any used car dealer) so they may a while.

If he is who he says he is, he will earn my trust eventually, but I'm not as optimistic / naive as I used to be.

bopper ago

Fair enough, I understand. But not all cops are bad of course.

I never knew Trump still I started following his rallies. They say this (the rallies) changed him, plus I hear that he's gone through a spiritual awakening.

Anyway, I began to trust him more after following him a while (probably helped that I never initially knew much about him). Also Trump is far from being a politician.

7792597? ago

Not all of ISIS are bad people either, but when when someone joins such an organisation it may be wise to make some assumptions about them for your own safety.

A pollie is a a person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of an elected office. He is not "far from being a pollie" he literally is President of the leader of the slave word.

...May I ask how many pollies you have closely followed and trusted before?

bopper ago

Trump's election was/is revolutionary. The whole point is/was that he is not a politician, isn't that correct? Not an insider (though far from perfect and squeaky clean). I guess time will tell, but he's certainly making all the right enemies.

I do understand we are serfs.

I'm an older guy, so I've seen a lot of pollies come and go. I have been fooled by them in the past, and I trust none of them (I think they're all puppets). Trump is obviously quite different, but again, time will tell. He def has an ego but I think he wants to be a hero (back to the ego again) much more than he wants to continue the fleecing of the people.