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Organ trafficking is rather widely discussed here but I believe that the importance of stem cells is being neglected. Tony Podesta worked as a lobbyist for a California Institute of Regenerative Medicine (CIRM) which deals in them. The Clinton's have always been big proponents of stem cell research as well. Their largest individual donor is the Ukrainian tycoon Victor Pinchuk who runs a series of prenatal hospitals called "Cradles of Hope". Victor's brother, Anatoliy is a scientist and he has performed experiments with nanosilver and rat stem cells.
Hospitals in the Ukraine have been shown to have killed babies and harvested their bodies for stem cells as reported by the BBC. The woman sent to investigate this case was from a subgroup of the Council of Europe and seemed prepared to bungle the case until the cut up corpse of a harvested baby was found. The Council of Europe has notably partnered with George Soros to create a European Roma Institute.
I once thought the connection between Victor Pinchuk and the Clinton Foundation was primarily about trafficking surrogate babies but upon learning all this I believe harvesting organs from stem cells is much more likely. It would be fairly easy to get away with considering many of the premature babies are expected to die anyway. What does everyone else think? Am I starting to go nutty?
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postfascion ago
Since foetuses contain harvestable stem cells, maybe Trump's targeting of abortion clinics is connected. Pure speculation on my part.
Aaanndgo ago
I've been thinking about this also. These NGOs that promote and offer abortion services to foreign countries then go on to sell the remains for profit . I don't blame him for stopping this. I am pro-choice and live in Canada, so there isn't an issue of availability or affordability, but these organizations would have to be meticulous in their accountability for me to ever support them, given what I know now about all this harvesting shit.
postfascion ago
Right, I agree. Although I'm anti-choice pretty much. I think if the child has the potential for a painful life, or is the result of rape that it is acceptable. However, I don't judge others who have abortions for other reasons (like many who are pro life have a tendency to do), just wish people were more in control of their actions to prevent "mistakes".
Aaanndgo ago
I respect your position. For me, after the first trimester, extenuating circumstances such as rape, painful or terminal life of newborn, or life-threatening issues with the mother are obviously acceptable to me, as long as the procedure is done humanely. It's probably not appropriate for me to comment as I live in a different Country with a much lower population and different healthcare- Plan B and long-term birth control options should be the focus of, if any, public funding...Mistake? Here's your abortion. 2nd time, here's your abortion and your tubal ligation, lol.
I read snippets of a Planned Parenthood document recently and I guess I was ignorant before because I was a tad sickened about some of the methods used past viability. I guess I think it should be more like euthanasia than preserving the best specimen for a scientist. It should be done with respect because most people having a mid or late term abortion are not making that choice lightly.
St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital relies on public donations for 75% of its funding; Planned parenthood and these NGO will have to find other funding. I wouldn't doubt that the President is now privy to information on the dark-side of some abortion providers and trafficking would seem to go hand in hand with it.
postfascion ago
Nice. I agree completely.
JustObserving ago
There are some really nice and polite and discussions going on here. It's a pleasure to read this.
postfascion ago
Yeah, I think people are waking up to the amount of comfort that can be gained from focusing on what unites us rather than divides us. Even if the subject matter that causes the discussions is so dark. But maybe it's because off rather than in spite of... Makes everything more relative.