Hi all,
Certain symbolism like the pedo-swirl are by now well known to the Voat community. I was watching a video about "Stranger Things" by Netflix being based on true stories surrounding Montauk, NY and the research facilities located there. Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/2WvQUp9bpjc?t=634
At this point, a victim of MKUltra programming discusses seeing a "swirling vortex" during a trance induction. It is not clear if this is a mental hallucination or an actual swirling light used for induction. The swirls are a common theme also in animation when something is being hypnotized.
Some key comments from this survivor:
"Using children was extremely important because they were innocent and they had extreme fear. The pineal gland excretes a chemical called adrenalchrome [sp?]...this is a body enhancer, a mind enhancer...which is extremely powerful if extracted when the person is at the height of fear."
I am wondering if the "swirl" is a tool used to mentally condition PizzaGate victims. I will be doing further research but wanted to post this for consideration as to why they use such a symbol.
Finally, I will not include all the links but search for "swirl as hypnotic technique" and you will find videos like these:
Edit for better video: https://youtu.be/0lkjoTh1Gpk
More to follow.
-------Links from the video page-------------
http://surbrook.devermore.com/herosource/pulp_hero/montauk/the_montauk_project.pdf
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Montauk_04.pdf
http://www.montaukchronicles.com/
ALDO_NOVA ago
maybe it is as simple as THIS
tons more here
whatonearth ago
I feel like I have to remind everyone once again that there is no evidence connecting any kind of spiral/swirl other than the specific triangular "boy lover" symbol to pedophilia. The idea of a more general non-triangular "pedoswirl" is not attested by anything other than wild speculation by pizzagate.
Fateswebb ago
I have been watching that show but only watched the first four episodes but have already noticed it has connections to mkultra and some weird child disappearances etc.
zoupSER ago
Just to add: Spirals in different native American cultures have meant different things.
earthbalance1 ago
EDIT: There are spirals carved into the rocks of the New Grange, Ireland neolithic site:
http://www.newgrange.eu/tri-spiral.htm
http://www.newgrange.com/newgrange/newgrange-interior.jpg
A very important occult location according to Andrew Powers, author of IRELAND: LAND OF THE PHAROAHS.
redditsuckz ago
Its ancient;
Nazka lines 200 BC
http://conclusionsdrawn.blogspot.ca/2010/02/in-search-of-nazca-lines.html
http://archive.is/6ZTQS
Then you have the odd Norway Spiral in the sky 2009;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIg5eczY5Ms
But I am sure these spirals go back millions of years and I dont think these spirals are specifically a pedo sign...they might be a human sacrifice code...same with the spiral triangle. Places that advertise these symbols are advertising to people who are cannibals.
But before that...millions of years ago these spirals meant something good like the spiral of consiousness...the Ammonite stone is 4 million years old and spirals have been in nature since creation;
Ammonite/sea creature
https://ferrebeekeeper.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/104392973_da224cfc4a_o.jpg
carmencita ago
Spirals do go back eons, but pedophilia does as well. The pedos will steal anything they want. Especially if they can compare it to something sexual.
ObviousChild ago
Hi everyone. This is my first post in here, I've been lurking for a while. This is just an insight into the spiritual aspect of symbolism..In my pre-Christian days, I practiced reiki. The spiral was a symbol used to invoke power. As we experimented we realized it was opening portals of energies, spiritual energies. They are essentially using it for Magick rituals to invoke these spirits into their SRA and trauma based mind control.victimsThe portals shown in children's shows is part of the portal programming rituals on the mainstream.
earthbalance1 ago
This is why I wonder if the spiral is possibly not a physical device.
ObviousChild ago
Interesting. I haven't thought of that
goatboy ago
The meaning has multiple layers. On the base level it signals secret group safe haven. One the next level, it signifies mental conditioning. On the next level, it represents a hieroglyph with power. On the next level, it represents a path for acolytes to follow to gain power and domination. At yet another level, it represents the Minotaurs maze where conquered people would send their children to be sacrificed as tribute to their conquerors (remember the story of Midas and everything he touched turned to gold). The last one is also alluded to in the Hunger Games novels.
At perhaps the highest level, it represents the game maker himself who controls and manipulates all sides. The goal of those who follow the left hand path is escape from this world by becoming gods and creating their own worlds. It doesn't matter if you believe that. What matters is they believe it.
earthbalance1 ago
I do agree a true symbol has layers of meaning depending upon context and purpose.
ASTOR7US ago
Understanding the meaning of the Spiral(ancient) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urJ88IsZgL8
VieBleu ago
I like this post because it is trim, with a clear argument, not too many links and is careful not to go to far with what is suggested as a line of thought. Much better thx.
LeChevalBlanc ago
By the way, tired of reading about confirmation bias or whatever you may call it I decided to have a look at my immediate environment (hunting for logos and signs) but swirls are not common at all (I found one inside a sun which makes sense because it symbolizes radiation). Swirl in a tricone : zero.
There's one quite obvious from the yoga tradition : Kundalini spiral in the triangular sacrum bone complex. Some witchcraft type of cults are known to (mis)use those symbols in desecrating interpretation, associating the triggering of the energy with sexual activity.
Z11Mama ago
I agree with you completely. But something crossed my mind. To begin with, if the triangular swirl has a specific effect on someone, similar swirls would logically also have an effect. Maybe not to the full extent but kind of an electric current zapping you at a lower level kind of shock. If you consider how it works in many venues where a uniform of one kind or another is required, there are at least two types of this. The more military perfection of exactness and the little bit more loose of you choose your own tie or what have you. What if the triangular swirl is the same? Certain 'clubs' if you will, might have a more or less jagged swirl. Others might have thicker or thinner lines, proportionately. That kind of thing. We don't need to make it like everyone is suspect. What we do need to do is be ready to notice patterns.
Criticalthinker615 ago
I think there is truth to this. The first thing I thought of when I saw the swirl was hipnotization.
justanotherpizza ago
I have also seen earlier posts hypothesizing about the swirl symbol in connection with orgone energy and wilhem Reich. he was suspected of sexual abuse of children, and saw sexual energy as a form of orgone. also Podesta emails contains one email that mentions orgone. Who knows. many possibilities
http://tajagate.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/48204
153sdsd ago
Yes seems about right, wonder what is there to know about hypnosis that they wont share with everybody, good to know there are hidden things to find in this world
earthbalance1 ago
I updated with a more hypnotic swirl, lol. Actually do not like look at that, coupled with a binaural beat you could go under pretty quickly.