Find it oddly fitting that Comet decided to play Lady Gaga's 'Born This Way' to drown them out. A song based on the concept that people are 'born' a certain way, and that they cannot help it. As an LGBT anthem it works, but when considering our beliefs about what Comet actually is this seems creepy as hell. As everyone else has already realised, the 'protesters' were almost definitely paid for. The poor people outside CPP defending it are either people ignorant to the investigation, or have ties with Comet. This video is the most eeery thing to come out of this investigation. It's so sad because nobody will actually look at this and see the subtext - they'll see Christian fundamentals acting homophobic. Since when did Pizzagate and our investigation want anything to do with that group?! Ridiculous. But people won't see it, they swallow up the performance being put on here.
A counter-attack protest wherein we all display Pro-LGBT flags and placards whilst shouting the truth - that Pizzagate is real. Maybe that might flip the tables. I'm not homophobic in the slightest, my sister's are gay, my uncle is gay, I have a transgender friend. What's interesting though is that Comet Pizza/Soros or whoever is finding these drama pieces - they're using an anti-lgbt angle. They're making this SEEM like Pizzagate is inherently anti-gay. We know this to be utterly false. We are anti-abuse. Anti-paedophilia. I feel as though a counter protest using phrases like 'we are against abuse, not gay rights' could be very productive. We need to make it clear that the only thing we are fighting here is child abuse.
Any ideas and actual organisation would be amazing. I'm not in America. I wish I was so I could really help.
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quantokitty ago
Yeah, no. Not sure who is backing the idiots outside CP, but there's nothing to protest. We're involved in presenting evidence, collecting evidence, and disseminating evidence that will cause authorities to move and investigate. That's the end game. That the rightful, lawful agencies and officiating bodies take over the investigation and see what is really going on. If they find wrongdoing, they will bring the appropriate charges. Since there are no charges and no official investigation that I know of (yeah, I know David Seaman got that tip, but I don't personally know that's true), JA is innocent and free to run his business. I do recognize that that business had a seamy private section that no one can apparently decipher, but that's why there are authorities. They'll have the magic key to demand he turn over the evidence. No protests. It would only make us look desperate. Might as well have a Snowflake March in Washington if we're going to do that.
WorkSmarter ago
A lot of groups have collected, presented and disseminated evidence for decades to no avail. 9/11 researchers come to mind. They all had high hopes of causing authorities to investigate. Unfortunately, with 9/11 and this case, the perpetrators and authorities are too closely linked to ever hope for a real investigation.
The only solution as I see it is to attack the funding that supports this kind of behavior. And to publicly shame people or groups that engage in or support these activities. Think about it...there are several publications that have lauded the artwork in Mr. Podesta's house. These are people that went in looked it over and said 'my audience would love to see this and hear about how great it is'. These publications have advertiser's/funders. These funder's said: i like what your doing, here's some money; put my companies name on it. These companies should have known better and need to be held responsible.
Remember those cakes that looked almost identical to dead female bodies. Remember celebs cutting into them and eating? Those cakes were made with the help of Dunkin' Donuts and Kool Aide. Dunkin' Donuts and Kool Aide thought....this seems cool. Please put our names on this. They should have thought...we have a great name....let's be careful what we support. Actor's and celebs in attendance should have looked around and said...I have a good image...maybe I shouldn't be seen at an event like this. Instead they smiled for pictures. These actors all have projects, with more sponsors. They should hear that we do not support this.
The money is the only thing that matters to these people. Reputations don't even matter any more. Going after the funding is the true endgame.
quantokitty ago
9/11 didn't have an email dump. And we still don't know what evidence is being withheld by Assange.
What you're talking about is a long-range strategy, but I haven't given up hope on this working. This is a unique case, so don't bring up other cases to compare. Take Elizabeth Smart. The dad didn't go, "You know ... children being kidnapped have a zero chance of being returned so I'm going to go by statistics and figure she's dead." No, he had a sketch made, hired a GOOD private detective, and FORCED the police to take action. Think that police force isn't run by pedos? I mean, come on!!! Even with the photo, an eyewitness sighting, and proof of where this Emmanuel was, the police refused to even ASK Emmanuel some questions. Really? That should be looked into and people fired left and right.
WorkSmarter ago
"Even with the photo, an eyewitness sighting, and proof of where this Emmanuel was, the police refused to even ASK Emmanuel some questions. Really? That should be looked into and people fired left and right."
I agree and that is exactly my point. No one will look into it. No one will get fired.
I feel our movement losing steam, instead of gaining it. I don't see any good coming from this. I actually see only negatives: more money and power for those involved, more censorship and worse of all abuse will continue to happen to children as these groups go back underground.
With all of that said, I hope I am wrong. But from experience I am afraid I won't be. I hope that something happens...it was sad seeing the periscope footage from Comet and seeing just how packed that place still is. I would love to see him go out of business. I would love to see those who are guilty brought to justice.
I don't want to take away from any of that. I just also want to see companies held responsible for their part in this.
quantokitty ago
No, the movement is not losing steam, definitely not. As for it being packed, really, if this had happened a couple of years ago, I doubt I would have believed it. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't have read the Wikileaks memos. I would have let them be interpreted by the propagandist news and everything would have been different. So just dig, dig, dig and control what you can. Lots of people are getting in on this and Alefantis is cracking. Him going after Ryan was really telling so let's put up the good fight.
WorkSmarter ago
I'm behind you 100%. I'm glad your with us. And I hope you are right.