Ben Swann comes off well in his presentation at first glance, but remember he was willing to work at a CBS local in the first place, and a lot of brill cream in evidence, so not exactly the most reassuring off the bat....
Maybe if I had BTC I would slide him a little if decided he was trustworthy, but neither one of those things is the case, yet.
But if he (and/or OP) is legit, targets:
Podestas' art and financial dealings, where is all the art, value, etc.
Tony supposedly has collected, i think, several thousand artworks. Probably 100 or so displayed in his house(s).
Are the rest on loan to galleries? in Museums? Sold? In basement? Warehouse? sold some legally? Illegally?
Alefantis's money trails. Lots of LLCs DBAs etc for this pizzaphile. How connected? how many bank accounts he must have.
Especially international ones. Does he still have ownership in the nalu diner or the dr pong? What about the one in London?
And the money flashing with the baby, who takes 5,000 GBP cash on a short vacation. I had a friend who lived in London 20-some years ago, he never carried cash. No one did, among his mainly upper class cohorts anyway.
It was 90% credit cards, ATMs, personal accounts, occasional checks, etc. even in the 90s.
That wad of cash is as sketchy as a gangbanger's, and flashed on instagram the same way.
Consider that while outrage and concern about trafficking and pedophilia got pizzagate rolling, it might not be the end game. Though sadly it seems kids are involved. Maybe the distasteful images of kids are code referring to something besides kids, a layer of the onion here, so to speak. Consider how many pedo symbols are shown on the comet ping pong block. Quite a few, for something that is only supposed to tip off those in the know. Reads more like a way to scare people off or insure any police inquires get directed down one channel.
Definitely follow the money.
Is Alefantis simply an accounts-payable guy for a black budget? He has international contacts and multiple businesses that blur the lines on value and cash, profit v. loss, perceived value v. realized gains etc. His friend Podesta after all has been said to be associated with the CIA, or have deep hidden ties to it at least, and lins with brotherr Tony touch deeper springs of mystery money from US and abroad.
Tell him to look into that.
And track down people, see how they react to interview -ambush, polite approach, whatever, from a "journalist" instead of a AR toting neckbeard.
Get eyes on and in 3518 11th st NW, track down Square Form and the Cummings angle. While you're on it find the daughters, how are they doing? Find square form customers not on Connecticut ave, if there are any.... Figure out if Alefantis's rage over that site was a red herring or due to there being something incriminating there.
Still not giving money, can't trust anybody these days. Nothing personal.
Thank you for writing this long post, this is great stuff for them to focus on. I mentioned to Zak that I find the "art" angle extremely interesting because I imagine it wouldn't be the hard to sell a shit painting for $20,000 so it's all legit on the books but the painting comes with something a little extra. Normal folk could dismiss that behavior as well as just rich billionaires paying too much for bad art. Definitely the art aspect of this all is something that may turn out to be a cornerstone of the operation. Seems that selling art would be the easiest way to cover up for illicit sales of other kinds.
I think you're definitely asking all the right questions here in this comment and this is the stuff the real journalists need to be looking in to. I also told Zak that if Ben could land an interview with James Alefantis that would be something we'd all be very interested in. I know I for one would love to see an actual journalist and not a propaganda mouthpiece sit down with him and start asking him questions like, "What does HoTard mean and what is a HoTard?", "Why do you take pictures of babies covered in money?", "Who is Justin Barrows and what is your relationship to him?", "Why do you identify with Antinous and additionally was there a 'Hadrian' in your life?", I would love to see Alefantis start trying to explain some of this stuff.
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No hard feelings on not believing that I was being truthful by the way... I know we are bombarded with disinformation in this forum and others daily.
I know how you could prove that you actually talked with him. Just have him mention your voat name on TV or twitter. You guys didn't think about this over the course of 3 hours?
"Oh yeah. Let's take it to the internets. Everyone will pay with their credit cards, and we can track them down and give them hugs. LOTS of HUGS."
Your story is bullshit. Your'e just a small little man with a small little story.
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crazimal ago
Thanks for the efflort,
Now get real.
Ben Swann comes off well in his presentation at first glance, but remember he was willing to work at a CBS local in the first place, and a lot of brill cream in evidence, so not exactly the most reassuring off the bat....
Maybe if I had BTC I would slide him a little if decided he was trustworthy, but neither one of those things is the case, yet.
But if he (and/or OP) is legit, targets:
Podestas' art and financial dealings, where is all the art, value, etc. Tony supposedly has collected, i think, several thousand artworks. Probably 100 or so displayed in his house(s). Are the rest on loan to galleries? in Museums? Sold? In basement? Warehouse? sold some legally? Illegally?
Alefantis's money trails. Lots of LLCs DBAs etc for this pizzaphile. How connected? how many bank accounts he must have. Especially international ones. Does he still have ownership in the nalu diner or the dr pong? What about the one in London? And the money flashing with the baby, who takes 5,000 GBP cash on a short vacation. I had a friend who lived in London 20-some years ago, he never carried cash. No one did, among his mainly upper class cohorts anyway. It was 90% credit cards, ATMs, personal accounts, occasional checks, etc. even in the 90s. That wad of cash is as sketchy as a gangbanger's, and flashed on instagram the same way.
Consider that while outrage and concern about trafficking and pedophilia got pizzagate rolling, it might not be the end game. Though sadly it seems kids are involved. Maybe the distasteful images of kids are code referring to something besides kids, a layer of the onion here, so to speak. Consider how many pedo symbols are shown on the comet ping pong block. Quite a few, for something that is only supposed to tip off those in the know. Reads more like a way to scare people off or insure any police inquires get directed down one channel. Definitely follow the money.
Is Alefantis simply an accounts-payable guy for a black budget? He has international contacts and multiple businesses that blur the lines on value and cash, profit v. loss, perceived value v. realized gains etc. His friend Podesta after all has been said to be associated with the CIA, or have deep hidden ties to it at least, and lins with brotherr Tony touch deeper springs of mystery money from US and abroad.
Tell him to look into that.
And track down people, see how they react to interview -ambush, polite approach, whatever, from a "journalist" instead of a AR toting neckbeard.
Get eyes on and in 3518 11th st NW, track down Square Form and the Cummings angle. While you're on it find the daughters, how are they doing? Find square form customers not on Connecticut ave, if there are any.... Figure out if Alefantis's rage over that site was a red herring or due to there being something incriminating there.
Still not giving money, can't trust anybody these days. Nothing personal.
DontTreadOnMemes ago
Thank you for writing this long post, this is great stuff for them to focus on. I mentioned to Zak that I find the "art" angle extremely interesting because I imagine it wouldn't be the hard to sell a shit painting for $20,000 so it's all legit on the books but the painting comes with something a little extra. Normal folk could dismiss that behavior as well as just rich billionaires paying too much for bad art. Definitely the art aspect of this all is something that may turn out to be a cornerstone of the operation. Seems that selling art would be the easiest way to cover up for illicit sales of other kinds.
I think you're definitely asking all the right questions here in this comment and this is the stuff the real journalists need to be looking in to. I also told Zak that if Ben could land an interview with James Alefantis that would be something we'd all be very interested in. I know I for one would love to see an actual journalist and not a propaganda mouthpiece sit down with him and start asking him questions like, "What does HoTard mean and what is a HoTard?", "Why do you take pictures of babies covered in money?", "Who is Justin Barrows and what is your relationship to him?", "Why do you identify with Antinous and additionally was there a 'Hadrian' in your life?", I would love to see Alefantis start trying to explain some of this stuff.
edit-
No hard feelings on not believing that I was being truthful by the way... I know we are bombarded with disinformation in this forum and others daily.
THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago
I know how you could prove that you actually talked with him. Just have him mention your voat name on TV or twitter. You guys didn't think about this over the course of 3 hours?
"Oh yeah. Let's take it to the internets. Everyone will pay with their credit cards, and we can track them down and give them hugs. LOTS of HUGS."
Your story is bullshit. Your'e just a small little man with a small little story.
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ThePuppetShow ago
You claim...
And s/he's the shill?
My next question would be... Why are you scared if that's really your line of thought?
newworldahead ago
I was one of the person to downvote you. I am not a bot, not a shill, not a troll. I just think everything you said in this thread is stupid. Your reward for being stupid is a downvote, enjoy!
THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago
I was one of the
person
to downvote you.
DO YOU EVEN ENGLISH?
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Do as Pepe does:
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tehthu ago
I concur. I downvoated you above because you bring no cards to this table. Your attitude sucks and you deserve the downvoat
newworldahead ago
Yeah, really... everything you said in this thread is stupid.