I agree. This guy was upset/angry about the allegations and also gave a solid defense. Very different response than from James in his Megyn Kelly interview.
We need to step up our game and be careful not to blast everyone associated with Alefantis. We are all waking a fine line between seeking justice and bringing down people's lives who are not involved.
It really is too bad the FBI is not getting involved. They have access to so much more than we do and could bring everything to a close with justice served correctly. I doubt we'll ever get much from them though. Sigh...
Hey Defender, keep in mind, there are many theories/rumors that the FBI is digging a similar tunnel right along side us here @ Voat. There could be good reason for waiting to spring a trap. Anything done prior to 1/20 could be met with a preemptive pardon. There is some curious behaviors that intelligence agencies have been displaying, almost like they are complacent in trying to cover some tracks.
It's going to be up the patriots left in these agencies to bring forth a case... and they are likely MUCH further than we are, keeping an eye on everything dug up here, but pursuing their own leads. Like you said "they have access to so much more than we do". Perhaps it is only a matter of time before they drop the hammer. They may want to "tag and track" everyone that is involved and hit everyone at one time. Imagine coordinating that?
Furthermore, if they are reviewing the 650k emails from the Huma/Weiner PC... they could theoretically be sitting on a gold mine that is exponentially more detailed than anything we've ever seen on Wikileaks. Think about how far this independent investigation has gone, only having a handful of implicit emails and code words to go off of. If the FBI has explicit intel and evidence that incriminates without code words or mere implication, this could make every dot we connect seem minuscule by comparison.
why improbable - he just threatened another person, why not someone he knows. Wouldn't need to even be a threat - iron fist/velvet glove. His project gave Crocker a new level of fame -Crocker owes Alefantis
Touché. However, IMO we should focus on the big hitters primarily. The fringe guys like this dude (speculating...) may help us flesh out the big picture, but we will look crazy if we accuse too many people at once. And we may get a little trigger happy with these fringe-but-still-associated people.
This investigation is getting spread out a lot. We will need to tighten it back up before we throw the final punch to break open Pizzagate.
I agree. Just wanted to caution people about discounting Alefantis alleged intimidation tactics - we just got a video today of a researcher resigning because of Alefantis. He's out there and on a clean up mission.
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ASolo ago
Yeah, he is sincere. Can't help but believe him.
VieBleu ago
What if Alefantis threatened him too?
militant ago
What if Captain Ashtar told Alefantis to threaten him?
DefenderOfTruth ago
I agree. This guy was upset/angry about the allegations and also gave a solid defense. Very different response than from James in his Megyn Kelly interview.
We need to step up our game and be careful not to blast everyone associated with Alefantis. We are all waking a fine line between seeking justice and bringing down people's lives who are not involved.
It really is too bad the FBI is not getting involved. They have access to so much more than we do and could bring everything to a close with justice served correctly. I doubt we'll ever get much from them though. Sigh...
SoSpricyHotDog ago
Hey Defender, keep in mind, there are many theories/rumors that the FBI is digging a similar tunnel right along side us here @ Voat. There could be good reason for waiting to spring a trap. Anything done prior to 1/20 could be met with a preemptive pardon. There is some curious behaviors that intelligence agencies have been displaying, almost like they are complacent in trying to cover some tracks.
It's going to be up the patriots left in these agencies to bring forth a case... and they are likely MUCH further than we are, keeping an eye on everything dug up here, but pursuing their own leads. Like you said "they have access to so much more than we do". Perhaps it is only a matter of time before they drop the hammer. They may want to "tag and track" everyone that is involved and hit everyone at one time. Imagine coordinating that?
Furthermore, if they are reviewing the 650k emails from the Huma/Weiner PC... they could theoretically be sitting on a gold mine that is exponentially more detailed than anything we've ever seen on Wikileaks. Think about how far this independent investigation has gone, only having a handful of implicit emails and code words to go off of. If the FBI has explicit intel and evidence that incriminates without code words or mere implication, this could make every dot we connect seem minuscule by comparison.
DefenderOfTruth ago
Thanks for that. I'm glad to see there's some hope of justice in all of this.
VieBleu ago
What if Alefantis threatened him to make it go away and stop making waves.
noreturn4me ago
Highly improbable. We need to stick to focusing on public figures and the big fish.
VieBleu ago
why improbable - he just threatened another person, why not someone he knows. Wouldn't need to even be a threat - iron fist/velvet glove. His project gave Crocker a new level of fame -Crocker owes Alefantis
You are not even making an argument. At all.
DefenderOfTruth ago
Touché. However, IMO we should focus on the big hitters primarily. The fringe guys like this dude (speculating...) may help us flesh out the big picture, but we will look crazy if we accuse too many people at once. And we may get a little trigger happy with these fringe-but-still-associated people.
This investigation is getting spread out a lot. We will need to tighten it back up before we throw the final punch to break open Pizzagate.
VieBleu ago
I agree. Just wanted to caution people about discounting Alefantis alleged intimidation tactics - we just got a video today of a researcher resigning because of Alefantis. He's out there and on a clean up mission.
DefenderOfTruth ago
& boy does he have a lot to clean up! Ha