The chicken lovers guy is Scott Cummings . Caris dad. (JA's god daughter) The dude that loves the BUTT mag. (also a gay dating site.) I think he is bi sexual and possibly a pedo (from that pic with the toddler with beads around his neck.) James has probably banged him before. His wife too. Think this may even be some menage a trois. This is why they may have agreed to have JA take ownership of their child. These people are libertine pansexual pervs.
There's a tiny hint of plausible deniability with the chicken lovers hashtag: he could claim that they just enjoyed a chicken dish. There are a couple of chicken dishes on the Comet menu.
If that was the only weird comment on the Instagram account, I could buy that explanation, but there's too many weird comments like that to instantly dismiss it as innocent IMO.
What is the holdup on Ryan making some bettee proof videos? He needs to close the browser and open it, verify the facebook authenticity better. Refresh the page a few times to show its not tampered code. Somebody reproduced that in like 2 minutes. Once he does that, we'll know his story is legit
Wow I didn't know he had confirmed links to pedophiles. Tours with a photographer, director & gay porn actor Chris Crocker in the White House late night status on 9/26 & 9/27 2012 (unless it was a different Christopher Cunningham) Then u got the rumors about what happened with his ex business partner. Also an incredibly rare type of broad daylight male gang rape abduction sexual attack blocks from Pegasus in 2015, part of a string of crimes (as of yet unsolved i believe)
Most people think its nonsense anyway.Someone could easily be framed for it and everyone will believe it. Its the perfect way to get people to totally dismiss any further investigation.
The Clintons do not give a damn. They will have Alefantis killed without a moment's thought.
Bucks and Little Red Fox don't get enough attention. And wtf is up w/ the "artwork" in all of those "restaurants"? The one you linked above would never be used in marketing or decorating for a place they claim is supposed to refer to "farm to table" type of dwelling. Marketing is about reinforcing a narrative. The crap we've seen in CPP and Bucks has nothing to do w the stated types of restaurants that they claim to be.
That's interesting, because yesterday I actually had a thought to focus on Podesta, and my second thought was, there isn't anything new on podesta. (you know how mind chatter goes.) But then I noticed the Beanie Baby thread on here, and thought that was a really good Jpodesta connection.
As you mention Brock, I think he has more info that could help establish a connection to PG, but I'm really not sure how to get at it. I'm glad you mentioned Brock's mental problem, and you might like this recent pizzagate vid that describes the psychology of a pedo-criminal. (I posted it but the mods deleted saying it wasn't related to the investigation), but I personally think that it describes their mental state, which is important to know in order to have a full understanding of who/what we're dealing with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkDb8Lxjyc8
I think you're right, and I think that if they decide to go to war with Russia, other countries IA will come forward and attest to this, unless they all want a war.
Also, Podesta being served up on a plate.... he actually is now in some ways, which is ironic based on his cannibal office pic and his comment that it's better to eat than be eaten. His ''creating'' backfired, because he is being eaten alive.
Hastert and Epstein got less time than a person charged for smoking marijuana, but that was pre-PG, so he may think he'll do better on the sword than deal with the demons that fight inside Marina Abramovic and Lady Gaga's brain..... rather than deal with a PG related jury.
Yeah, I realize JA doesn't like kids. at all, but surely he cares about the environment in which he has to work. The outcome of Buck's and CPP pizzagate drama has shown that his choices get this type of result..... so he created his choices - he can un create them.
He clearly has completely different ideas of morals than we do, but he can come forward and do something right for once in his life...
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Best to do the right thing and come forward, tell all he knows, and take the consequences now because the consequences later will not be good.
you can run on for a long time, run on for a long time, but sooner or later.
I'd support JA in coming forward and spilling the beans, honestly and completely.
JA is a mid-level manager. While his ego is evidenced by his showmanship and sleight of hand, it is his, well, "Achilles" heel. If he hadn't been such a douche and post the legal limits of what you can put online, "spirit cooking" may have burned itself out. Regardless, the real power brokers will toss him aside like a "cheap handkerchief". [ My money says he hangs himself. ]
But no. He is a petty little man. I'm sure he was passed around like a party favor from earliest memories. The pain of his little rosebud blasted open by dad's "friends". Which he must now inflict upon others. Weak, worthless little pawn.
Your time is nigh, JA. The wolves are at the door. What are you gonna do? Save your own ass or go down with the ship? Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock.
Safest move for him right now would be to post a full video confession online, let us make it go viral, then wait for the authorities to collect him from his location and start talkin. If they kill him after that, it will blow the story sky high with no hope of containment. It would be counterproductive for them to take him out once the public is alerted to whats going on. And the upside for him is that he can try to work out a deal (in exchange for information) which the public will pressure the authorities to offer him.
I know I know I know. It's my reddit username and I wanted to keep it the same for continuity. The reddit name is 7 years old from when I was a super mature 21 year old.
A bit off topic, but I've seen Alefantis being referred to as JA constantly the last two-three days, when before, my mind always associated JA with Julian Assange. It is highly confusing for me, haha.
Devil's advocate on the Michael Alig bit, I followed his release very closely and he is definitely a sort of gay icon, despite his crimes. I agree it's creepy in context, but anyone who's read Disco Bloodbath or seen Party Monster might also be interested in him being released from prison.
It's really not just slang. In "Trance: Formation of America", Kathy O'Brien's parents would take them camping to have orgies. She even tells of a hunter that came upon their camp during the activities and her father ran after him and shot him to death. She said they cleared out pretty quick after that and when they were driving down the road, they saw the guy's fellow hunters looking for him.
Yes, if we ensure we have strong evidence of the close links and money etc between Alefantis, the Podestas, Clintons, Soros etc, then any hard evidence against Alefantis makes it imperative that further investigations look into those people thoroughly. So it is definitely worth pursuing it, especially as it's looking like the main piece of the puzzle that could lead to undeniable, MSM has to report it, smoking gun proof.
Agree with this. I think if Alefantis smart he'll consider talking. He knows he's a sacrificial pawn and expendable. He should beat them to the punch before the whole ship goes down in flames. Maybe his desperation was the catalyst to call Ryan. James read this and be advised. I think he should do an AMA here spill the beans and cover his Ass. Let the Podesta brothers Fry, I would be fine with that.
He said to pizzagear guy that everything is true except he doesn't like kids "at all" ... probably why he enjoys torturing them and disposing of their bodies in macabre fashion.
I got a weird take on that when said he doesn't like kids. He seemed proud about it, it seemed he was insulted by it. "Everything else is true." (Not sure exactly what that means.) We know he's a fag and a creep and a deviant. But consider that maybe he is just involved as a 'supplier' or an 'enabler' etc., and he himself really doesn't like kids, just as he says, And being in the 'business,' then all his instagrams, crap on the walls, etc. is simply branding himself. It's possible. Showing off what he does, proud of it.
This could be true. He shows disdain for his own Goddaughter by calling her a hotard. But then theres a lot of evidence to suggest he identifies with being a paedophile.
I just think that line from him was a lie. Jimmy Savile used it. An innocent man would surely be more 'I love kids, I built my restaurant around making kids happy. I could never hurt them'
On reflection (and remembering him identifying with 'Pan,'), I think what you say is probably more plausible. I don't know, it's just the way he said it (though I of course didn't actually 'hear' it). I guess you could read it different ways. But then there's Saville and Saville saying the same thing. And if you are correct then, truth be told, with sickos like him it's probably more like a love/HATE relationship towards kids, in other words kind of a sick bipolar. I hope we find out.
Edit: What I mean in my previous comments is simply that possibly, he doesn't dig them sexually, like the people he works for (assuming he indeed is just a go-between), and that "Hey, I'm a straight-up proud faggot, and that's all I am." Like, "Hey, I'm a lover not a fighter," Or Chevy people against Ford, Harley riders vs. whomever, etc. Dunno.
This is probably a real possibility. Only shame is, if the people he's beholden to catch wind of us trying to send him such a message, they might expedite the process and take him out sooner than they would've. I wonder what he will do in the coming months... I wonder who all he works for
Sometimes I wonder if he's actually higher up than the people we think of as being his superiors by virtue of their positions in normal society. I remember reading somewhere that people in these weird secret societies who all look out and cover up for each other will often have a hierarchy that is not related to their positions in 'the real world.' So you might have someone who is a Judge or a Senior police officer for their day job, but really they answer to their superior in the secret society, whose day job might be cleaning public restrooms or selling pizzas etc.
I also remember thinking it seemed odd in the Podesta emails the way JA and JP spoke to each other. Like JP was always agreeable and would say yes to JA's requests, and JA's requests were very familiar and not at all deferent like you might expect from a small business owner who is asking a prominent and powerful political operator for a favour last minute.
So I think it is worth considering that, given that this secret 'culture' they exist within is something we are just not familiar with (thank God), we might be making erroneous assumptions about the positions of different members within the culture's social hierarchy. We assume their hierarchy mirrors the way they are positioned within society as a whole, but that very well might not be the case. Hillary and Bill Clinton might take orders from people behind the scenes that we barely even register or recognise. And it might be that way because the 'Big Cheeses' (Alefantis owns a company called the Big Cheese LLC in fact!) prefer a certain level of anonymity and freedom - you don't get much free time or opportunity to indulge in your sick hobbies without constant fear of exposure if you are a senior politician or campaign manager or chief of staff etc. Obviously there are also huge perks to those positions, especially for people who enjoy being in the limelight, but it seems as though people like JA are bestowed with many perks themselves - invites to the White House, lots of money, lots of parties and events with the rich and famous, being featured in GQ magazine, fancy vacations etc. So it is definitely a possibility that the higher-ups in these criminal organisations actually keep a relatively low profile day to day.
Of course it could run the risk of subordinates occupying positions of power in the 'real world' using that ostensible power to undermine their superiors, but then again when you consider that these networks are large and brutal, I expect fear or exposure and reprisals from other society members would keep that kind of thing in check.
So - I think we should not just assume that Alefantis is expendable or that the Clintons etc have the power in their secret circles to get rid of him. Of course it is also possible and probable that they do, but think it's worth keeping open minds about it, to ensure we don't miss anything.
Its an interesting theory. It frustrates me when people refer to him as just the owner of a pizza shop. He's so much more than that. If we go with the idea art deals are used to launder money or as a cover for purchases of things like children and drugs, then he is right in the heart of it and pulling strings.
But then I also agree with the person who points out the threats he's been making. That is the sign of someone scared. It goes against his relaxed smiley attitude in interviews where he doesn't seem bothered. It feels like his confidence in being protected is disappearing and he now feels exposed.
Wouldn't it be the irony of all ironies if he turned out to be THE Big Cheese? lol Of course we know it's not the case, the REAL "big cheese" is probably someone either anonymous or names Rothschild. But still, it would be funny. Like the "real" ruler of the universe wasn't actually Zaphod Beeblebrox, but was instead was "a man living in a small shack... He does not want to rule the universe and tries not to whenever possible, and therefore is by far the ideal candidate for the job. He has an odd, solipsistic view of reality: he lives alone with his cat, which he has named "The Lord" even though he is not certain of its existence."
I enjoyed reading that. Thanks for sharing. It relates the PG insights in different ways that can be better understood psychologically. I know the mods don't think psychology, or spiritual-psychology relates to PG, (because they just deleted my vid), but you and I know that it does.
I really like this theory. I don't agree, I think Alefantis threatening that guy on the phone (if legitimate) proves that he is sweating... not for his own safety from US courts, but perhaps he feels his life is threatened unless the situation is handled adequately.
Why wouldn't he have a surrogate contact the guy otherwise?
My theory is they haven't killed him because he's front and center of the investigation. That would be like killing Assange... which I was convinced happened until he went on Hannity (still curious about his whereabouts and what he's been doing?)
Who knows. Either way I admire your line of thought and hope you keep your nose on this investigation. I know I will be.
The single blue candle is a pedophile symbol. Buck's (being itself a pedo nickname) features a single candle with a blue swirl mounted in two donut holes for its 10th anniversary logo. Of course each thing, by itself, means very little.
But now, in part to check myself, I look for these 'coincidences' everywhere. And what I keep finding is that Alefantis produces pedophile symbolism every time something new is revealed. Very few, really no in my experience, other businesses do.
If the innocent explanation is JA is constantly referencing pedophilia, ritual sexual abuse, and satanism as some kind of inside joke -- It's not funny.
Yep, we need some good evidence to break it out of that mold for sure. As you and I know it all connects but the MSM and cognitively dissonant world just refuse to agree.
There a pair of baby panties in the Buck's Fishing and Camping display photo on the left side of the table.
They're made of cloth with same pattern as the table clothe and have to stitched to display that way.
Chickenhawk
Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a war hawk), yet who actively avoids or avoided military service when of age.
But, like I said, it worked for me when I pulled it up in a new window. It just didn't want to display it as a placed image on this page. When I try that it puts a black box on this page with a couple of elements which seem to indicate that it's trying to do it, but the picture itself does not show up in the box.
Did we ever find out who the parents of Caris are? I thought Caris might be a girl but someone on here once said a boy. Maybe JA wants Caris to be both. He is a very sick individual. I heard on the news that the Fort Laud. shooter had told the FBI a yr ago that he was being told to watch ISIS videos by an Intelligence Agency. This sounds like MK Ultra. Imo JA had also maybe been mind controlled and also sexually abused.
At 33 minutes we hear paedophiles referred to as bucks. Alefantis owns Buck's Fishing and Camping.
Also this reference to being a buck from the man himself.
Alefantis says he’s as close to a “Buck” as you will find at Buck’s. The name lends a sense of folksiness to the establishment, while “Fishing & Camping” is a subtle way of promoting the restaurant’s commitment to locality.
Here's another documentary worth checking into about a massive pedophile online sting operation called operation ore 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg2Xb-5hxjs
BTW that voicemail message was so refreshing
Yeah, even though JA is only the tip of the iceberg, this question sums it up. But we have to go beyond JA, we have enough on him in a just world, which hopefully we will when Trump starts his law and order persidency... WE CAN NOT LET THIS STOP AT JUST JA! Good post though
The deal is. It actually started with podesta, James is just really loose about it being obvious so we followed the path that was laid out. Almost like breadcrumbs. They were intentionally laid out, but not to lead us, just with the belief that nobody would notice. Problem is now we noticed. The alefantis line of the investigation is mostly a dead end. And wait before you call me a shill, I agree that James is up to no good, but think about it this way. We start at podesta and we work downward with James. Sure we got the dirt mostly, and there is more we're sure to uncover, but the fact is we're working downward not upward. It's good, but even better would be exposing more of the upward connections. Which we have mostly laid out as well, except there just aren't nearly as many details since James laid out a lot of crumbs. I fear as well they will do something to make it look localized to James when the point is he is a small player in a huge ring.
The confusing thing is that Podesta HATES Brock and does not trust him, and thinks he's crazy and a complete freak.
In the Podesta email exchanges with Alefantis, James is very much the suck-up brown-noser, and effusive in a sickening way. Podesta seems to hold him at arms length.
When Brock wanted Tony Podesta to hold a book party for him, Tony had to get permission from John first. John ok'd it, but wouldn't reply to various other invitations to attend or came up with an excuse not to go to any Brock book parties.
Then Lynn Rothschild sent an email that smells like a a command that he attend a Brock book party that she was involved with.
So during all this time, Alefantis seems to get closer to Tony. Alefantis and Brock break up, and Heather and Tony Podesta break up.
Next thing you know, Tony is hosting a birthday party for Alefantis complete with a big grey flaccid penis-shaped birthday cake.
Mary Pat Bonner: I hadn’t heard back and wanted to send you another quick note about the book party this Thursday evening to celebrate the release of David Brock’s new book—Killing the Messenger.
I may have that wrong on the Rothschild email, or else I just can't find it now. It looks like the very direct email was from Mary Pat Bronner telling John to be at the party for Brock at Rothschild's home.
stellarcorpse ago
The chicken lovers guy is Scott Cummings . Caris dad. (JA's god daughter) The dude that loves the BUTT mag. (also a gay dating site.) I think he is bi sexual and possibly a pedo (from that pic with the toddler with beads around his neck.) James has probably banged him before. His wife too. Think this may even be some menage a trois. This is why they may have agreed to have JA take ownership of their child. These people are libertine pansexual pervs.
Pizzalurker15 ago
Cocaine trafficking and human smuggling go hand in hand crossing borders together
cdglow ago
There's a tiny hint of plausible deniability with the chicken lovers hashtag: he could claim that they just enjoyed a chicken dish. There are a couple of chicken dishes on the Comet menu.
If that was the only weird comment on the Instagram account, I could buy that explanation, but there's too many weird comments like that to instantly dismiss it as innocent IMO.
listenandsee ago
I agree. It looks like it was there first, too. And check out the name they were thinking of for Comet, "The Hen House". http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/05/AR2007070501270.html
Aloha808 ago
The gay culture is fucking bizarre
BertieMcDuffy ago
Yeah chickenlovers is the LEAST explainable of all the photos, for sure!
rickman ago
Who knows? A weak link removed. Punishment for bringing attention tot his. A warning to others involved.
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
And why does he post so many pics of them on instagram?
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
What is the holdup on Ryan making some bettee proof videos? He needs to close the browser and open it, verify the facebook authenticity better. Refresh the page a few times to show its not tampered code. Somebody reproduced that in like 2 minutes. Once he does that, we'll know his story is legit
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
Wow I didn't know he had confirmed links to pedophiles. Tours with a photographer, director & gay porn actor Chris Crocker in the White House late night status on 9/26 & 9/27 2012 (unless it was a different Christopher Cunningham) Then u got the rumors about what happened with his ex business partner. Also an incredibly rare type of broad daylight male gang rape abduction sexual attack blocks from Pegasus in 2015, part of a string of crimes (as of yet unsolved i believe)
rickman ago
Most people think its nonsense anyway.Someone could easily be framed for it and everyone will believe it. Its the perfect way to get people to totally dismiss any further investigation.
The Clintons do not give a damn. They will have Alefantis killed without a moment's thought.
Toogi23 ago
Yes I thought that both bucks and besta seem to have very little digging going on, or have I missed the posts on this?
Birdzeyeview ago
it's the real thing
Birdzeyeview ago
well you would know...
Freemasonsrus ago
Bucks and Little Red Fox don't get enough attention. And wtf is up w/ the "artwork" in all of those "restaurants"? The one you linked above would never be used in marketing or decorating for a place they claim is supposed to refer to "farm to table" type of dwelling. Marketing is about reinforcing a narrative. The crap we've seen in CPP and Bucks has nothing to do w the stated types of restaurants that they claim to be.
madmanpg ago
This is way more of a serious inquiry than all the bullshit over that faked phone threat.
cosmicmind ago
That's interesting, because yesterday I actually had a thought to focus on Podesta, and my second thought was, there isn't anything new on podesta. (you know how mind chatter goes.) But then I noticed the Beanie Baby thread on here, and thought that was a really good Jpodesta connection.
As you mention Brock, I think he has more info that could help establish a connection to PG, but I'm really not sure how to get at it. I'm glad you mentioned Brock's mental problem, and you might like this recent pizzagate vid that describes the psychology of a pedo-criminal. (I posted it but the mods deleted saying it wasn't related to the investigation), but I personally think that it describes their mental state, which is important to know in order to have a full understanding of who/what we're dealing with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkDb8Lxjyc8
cosmicmind ago
I think you're right, and I think that if they decide to go to war with Russia, other countries IA will come forward and attest to this, unless they all want a war.
Also, Podesta being served up on a plate.... he actually is now in some ways, which is ironic based on his cannibal office pic and his comment that it's better to eat than be eaten. His ''creating'' backfired, because he is being eaten alive.
cosmicmind ago
You may be right....addictions to their habit culture (aka pedo-crime) are very strong in pedofile-land, but loyalty is not.
https://sli.mg/1WTB1A <---- Instagram photo of the sword cartoon
Hastert and Epstein got less time than a person charged for smoking marijuana, but that was pre-PG, so he may think he'll do better on the sword than deal with the demons that fight inside Marina Abramovic and Lady Gaga's brain..... rather than deal with a PG related jury.
cosmicmind ago
Yeah, I realize JA doesn't like kids. at all, but surely he cares about the environment in which he has to work. The outcome of Buck's and CPP pizzagate drama has shown that his choices get this type of result..... so he created his choices - he can un create them.
He clearly has completely different ideas of morals than we do, but he can come forward and do something right for once in his life...
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Best to do the right thing and come forward, tell all he knows, and take the consequences now because the consequences later will not be good.
you can run on for a long time, run on for a long time, but sooner or later.
I'd support JA in coming forward and spilling the beans, honestly and completely.
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AngelTantrum ago
JA..Is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior
Orange_Circle ago
What he is too stupid to realize is that his masters seem very displeased with his attention seeking behavior!
Notice that none of the true players are out there defending Alefantis.
BeezleyBillyBub ago
scared me for a second, I thought you said pair not square, that's why I always wear odd socks
memegod420 ago
You realize you searched "sex bracelet" and then circled a beaded necklace?
BeezleyBillyBub ago
I believe you, I can't even fold socks
Blacksmith21 ago
JA is a mid-level manager. While his ego is evidenced by his showmanship and sleight of hand, it is his, well, "Achilles" heel. If he hadn't been such a douche and post the legal limits of what you can put online, "spirit cooking" may have burned itself out. Regardless, the real power brokers will toss him aside like a "cheap handkerchief". [ My money says he hangs himself. ]
But no. He is a petty little man. I'm sure he was passed around like a party favor from earliest memories. The pain of his little rosebud blasted open by dad's "friends". Which he must now inflict upon others. Weak, worthless little pawn.
Your time is nigh, JA. The wolves are at the door. What are you gonna do? Save your own ass or go down with the ship? Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock.
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
Safest move for him right now would be to post a full video confession online, let us make it go viral, then wait for the authorities to collect him from his location and start talkin. If they kill him after that, it will blow the story sky high with no hope of containment. It would be counterproductive for them to take him out once the public is alerted to whats going on. And the upside for him is that he can try to work out a deal (in exchange for information) which the public will pressure the authorities to offer him.
i2amspartacus ago
Yes! At this stage in the game, it's all about keeping the heat on JA. Clintons and co.'s Achilles' heel.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
If this were the only thing weird about Alefantis, and he said hey, I just have a sick sense of humor sometimes... I would buy that.
Pizzalurker15 ago
This! He needs to address the pictures etc make excuses/reasons for each one and this would go away. Because he cant do that he seems guilty
abortionburger ago
I know I know I know. It's my reddit username and I wanted to keep it the same for continuity. The reddit name is 7 years old from when I was a super mature 21 year old.
abortionburger ago
A bit off topic, but I've seen Alefantis being referred to as JA constantly the last two-three days, when before, my mind always associated JA with Julian Assange. It is highly confusing for me, haha.
abortionburger ago
Devil's advocate on the Michael Alig bit, I followed his release very closely and he is definitely a sort of gay icon, despite his crimes. I agree it's creepy in context, but anyone who's read Disco Bloodbath or seen Party Monster might also be interested in him being released from prison.
badastrid ago
He's not key, but he knows a lot. They've killed people for less. Braverman the Second.
organic1 ago
It's really not just slang. In "Trance: Formation of America", Kathy O'Brien's parents would take them camping to have orgies. She even tells of a hunter that came upon their camp during the activities and her father ran after him and shot him to death. She said they cleared out pretty quick after that and when they were driving down the road, they saw the guy's fellow hunters looking for him.
SpikyAube ago
Yes, if we ensure we have strong evidence of the close links and money etc between Alefantis, the Podestas, Clintons, Soros etc, then any hard evidence against Alefantis makes it imperative that further investigations look into those people thoroughly. So it is definitely worth pursuing it, especially as it's looking like the main piece of the puzzle that could lead to undeniable, MSM has to report it, smoking gun proof.
Orange_Circle ago
The GQ thing was just paid PR. He's not really powerful, he's just been on his knees in a lot of Kalorama homes.
@LoPhatt's Little Swisher is completely right.
Truthseeker3000 ago
@birdzeyeview This is his Voat account. Ask him. Hopefully this tagged him.
Birdzeyeview ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPMKlEwrIs8
slickleg64 ago
Well, got anything to say to this?
contrary_mma_hipster ago
Thought it was XVktm?
birdzeyeview is definitely part of the crew, but uses British slang - "muppets" and "bollocks" etc.
Birdzeyeview ago
ha ha this is hilarious, and wrong again. dont give up your day jobs, detectives
ALDO_NOVA ago
ex-victim?
LawofTruth ago
Agree with this. I think if Alefantis smart he'll consider talking. He knows he's a sacrificial pawn and expendable. He should beat them to the punch before the whole ship goes down in flames. Maybe his desperation was the catalyst to call Ryan. James read this and be advised. I think he should do an AMA here spill the beans and cover his Ass. Let the Podesta brothers Fry, I would be fine with that.
contrarianism ago
He said to pizzagear guy that everything is true except he doesn't like kids "at all" ... probably why he enjoys torturing them and disposing of their bodies in macabre fashion.
bopper ago
I got a weird take on that when said he doesn't like kids. He seemed proud about it, it seemed he was insulted by it. "Everything else is true." (Not sure exactly what that means.) We know he's a fag and a creep and a deviant. But consider that maybe he is just involved as a 'supplier' or an 'enabler' etc., and he himself really doesn't like kids, just as he says, And being in the 'business,' then all his instagrams, crap on the walls, etc. is simply branding himself. It's possible. Showing off what he does, proud of it.
rickman ago
This could be true. He shows disdain for his own Goddaughter by calling her a hotard. But then theres a lot of evidence to suggest he identifies with being a paedophile.
I just think that line from him was a lie. Jimmy Savile used it. An innocent man would surely be more 'I love kids, I built my restaurant around making kids happy. I could never hurt them'
bopper ago
On reflection (and remembering him identifying with 'Pan,'), I think what you say is probably more plausible. I don't know, it's just the way he said it (though I of course didn't actually 'hear' it). I guess you could read it different ways. But then there's Saville and Saville saying the same thing. And if you are correct then, truth be told, with sickos like him it's probably more like a love/HATE relationship towards kids, in other words kind of a sick bipolar. I hope we find out. Edit: What I mean in my previous comments is simply that possibly, he doesn't dig them sexually, like the people he works for (assuming he indeed is just a go-between), and that "Hey, I'm a straight-up proud faggot, and that's all I am." Like, "Hey, I'm a lover not a fighter," Or Chevy people against Ford, Harley riders vs. whomever, etc. Dunno.
dem6nic ago
Chicken lover and beads man. Too much circumstancial evidence. Too many questions that he will never answer.
Womb_Raider ago
This is probably a real possibility. Only shame is, if the people he's beholden to catch wind of us trying to send him such a message, they might expedite the process and take him out sooner than they would've. I wonder what he will do in the coming months... I wonder who all he works for
SpikyAube ago
Sometimes I wonder if he's actually higher up than the people we think of as being his superiors by virtue of their positions in normal society. I remember reading somewhere that people in these weird secret societies who all look out and cover up for each other will often have a hierarchy that is not related to their positions in 'the real world.' So you might have someone who is a Judge or a Senior police officer for their day job, but really they answer to their superior in the secret society, whose day job might be cleaning public restrooms or selling pizzas etc.
I also remember thinking it seemed odd in the Podesta emails the way JA and JP spoke to each other. Like JP was always agreeable and would say yes to JA's requests, and JA's requests were very familiar and not at all deferent like you might expect from a small business owner who is asking a prominent and powerful political operator for a favour last minute.
So I think it is worth considering that, given that this secret 'culture' they exist within is something we are just not familiar with (thank God), we might be making erroneous assumptions about the positions of different members within the culture's social hierarchy. We assume their hierarchy mirrors the way they are positioned within society as a whole, but that very well might not be the case. Hillary and Bill Clinton might take orders from people behind the scenes that we barely even register or recognise. And it might be that way because the 'Big Cheeses' (Alefantis owns a company called the Big Cheese LLC in fact!) prefer a certain level of anonymity and freedom - you don't get much free time or opportunity to indulge in your sick hobbies without constant fear of exposure if you are a senior politician or campaign manager or chief of staff etc. Obviously there are also huge perks to those positions, especially for people who enjoy being in the limelight, but it seems as though people like JA are bestowed with many perks themselves - invites to the White House, lots of money, lots of parties and events with the rich and famous, being featured in GQ magazine, fancy vacations etc. So it is definitely a possibility that the higher-ups in these criminal organisations actually keep a relatively low profile day to day.
Of course it could run the risk of subordinates occupying positions of power in the 'real world' using that ostensible power to undermine their superiors, but then again when you consider that these networks are large and brutal, I expect fear or exposure and reprisals from other society members would keep that kind of thing in check.
So - I think we should not just assume that Alefantis is expendable or that the Clintons etc have the power in their secret circles to get rid of him. Of course it is also possible and probable that they do, but think it's worth keeping open minds about it, to ensure we don't miss anything.
Pizzalurker15 ago
Important to keep thinking outside the box like this
SpikyAube ago
I LIVE outside the box. Most of the time it just gets me weird looks, so this comment is nice, thanks :-)
rickman ago
Its an interesting theory. It frustrates me when people refer to him as just the owner of a pizza shop. He's so much more than that. If we go with the idea art deals are used to launder money or as a cover for purchases of things like children and drugs, then he is right in the heart of it and pulling strings.
But then I also agree with the person who points out the threats he's been making. That is the sign of someone scared. It goes against his relaxed smiley attitude in interviews where he doesn't seem bothered. It feels like his confidence in being protected is disappearing and he now feels exposed.
NerdyNoodle ago
Wouldn't it be the irony of all ironies if he turned out to be THE Big Cheese? lol Of course we know it's not the case, the REAL "big cheese" is probably someone either anonymous or names Rothschild. But still, it would be funny. Like the "real" ruler of the universe wasn't actually Zaphod Beeblebrox, but was instead was "a man living in a small shack... He does not want to rule the universe and tries not to whenever possible, and therefore is by far the ideal candidate for the job. He has an odd, solipsistic view of reality: he lives alone with his cat, which he has named "The Lord" even though he is not certain of its existence."
cosmicmind ago
I enjoyed reading that. Thanks for sharing. It relates the PG insights in different ways that can be better understood psychologically. I know the mods don't think psychology, or spiritual-psychology relates to PG, (because they just deleted my vid), but you and I know that it does.
Womb_Raider ago
I really like this theory. I don't agree, I think Alefantis threatening that guy on the phone (if legitimate) proves that he is sweating... not for his own safety from US courts, but perhaps he feels his life is threatened unless the situation is handled adequately.
Why wouldn't he have a surrogate contact the guy otherwise?
My theory is they haven't killed him because he's front and center of the investigation. That would be like killing Assange... which I was convinced happened until he went on Hannity (still curious about his whereabouts and what he's been doing?)
Who knows. Either way I admire your line of thought and hope you keep your nose on this investigation. I know I will be.
ThePuppetShow ago
There's these for proof of definition...
http://www.definition-of.com/chicken%20lover
That site carbon dates to 2004 http://cd.cs.odu.edu/cd?url=http://www.definition-of.com/chicken%20lover
This site was deleted before it could be carbon dated...
http://archive.is/S9rQ5
Here is the carbon dating site with no results entered...
http://cd.cs.odu.edu/
B_dog ago
The single blue candle is a pedophile symbol. Buck's (being itself a pedo nickname) features a single candle with a blue swirl mounted in two donut holes for its 10th anniversary logo. Of course each thing, by itself, means very little.
But now, in part to check myself, I look for these 'coincidences' everywhere. And what I keep finding is that Alefantis produces pedophile symbolism every time something new is revealed. Very few, really no in my experience, other businesses do.
If the innocent explanation is JA is constantly referencing pedophilia, ritual sexual abuse, and satanism as some kind of inside joke -- It's not funny.
Birdzeyeview ago
" I look for these 'coincidences' everywhere."
so do paranoid schizophrenics
Fateswebb ago
Yep, we need some good evidence to break it out of that mold for sure. As you and I know it all connects but the MSM and cognitively dissonant world just refuse to agree.
BeezleyBillyBub ago
You can read about the booming baby blood black market here. https://lokisrevengeblog.wordpress.com/2017/01/07/booming-baby-blood-black-market/
BeezleyBillyBub ago
There a pair of baby panties in the Buck's Fishing and Camping display photo on the left side of the table. They're made of cloth with same pattern as the table clothe and have to stitched to display that way.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Apophenia.
Maybe.
ronnyCPI ago
Chickens = little boys. Remember the email from, I think, Cheryl Mills about sacrificing a chicken to Moloch?
murraryrothbard ago
Link
Chickenhawk Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a war hawk), yet who actively avoids or avoided military service when of age.
srayzie ago
Oh I didn't look closely at it. I already closed the tab
srayzie ago
Did you notice the one that shows a napkin that looks like children's under pants? http://m.imgur.com/a/uBdLR
Birdzeyeview ago
you have a sick mind. Are you a pedophile?
srayzie ago
What are you talking about? What did I say?
ZalesMcMuffin ago
imgur is not displaying that image for me. I've had trouble with other imgur pages lately too.
ETA: it pulls up the page in another window, it just won't display it in this page.
srayzie ago
What image? I can't remember
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Just click "parent" to travel back up the thread (one post at a time).
In this case it was this: http://m.imgur.com/a/uBdLR
But, like I said, it worked for me when I pulled it up in a new window. It just didn't want to display it as a placed image on this page. When I try that it puts a black box on this page with a couple of elements which seem to indicate that it's trying to do it, but the picture itself does not show up in the box.
srayzie ago
Oh ok. Thank you for teaching me that I needed to hit the parent button!
murraryrothbard ago
I always thought chickenhawk meant someone rabidly pro-war who never served in the military.
noworldorder ago
Dual meanings.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
"There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure Cuz you know sometimes words have two meanings."
Rigg5 ago
Let's hope. Hear that James? Come forward or they'll kill you. It's your move.
Birdzeyeview ago
check
concernedaboutitall ago
Great post. It also appears the baby in that photo is Caris? Why?
carmencita ago
Did we ever find out who the parents of Caris are? I thought Caris might be a girl but someone on here once said a boy. Maybe JA wants Caris to be both. He is a very sick individual. I heard on the news that the Fort Laud. shooter had told the FBI a yr ago that he was being told to watch ISIS videos by an Intelligence Agency. This sounds like MK Ultra. Imo JA had also maybe been mind controlled and also sexually abused.
speepsie ago
on right-wing twitter at least any mention of Brock will prompt countless jokes about his being a hopeless cokehead
rickman ago
Chickenhawk - Men who love boys 1994 documentary
At 33 minutes we hear paedophiles referred to as bucks. Alefantis owns Buck's Fishing and Camping.
Also this reference to being a buck from the man himself.
Buck's review from 2013
Truthplease5 ago
the camping part may be a connection to Alefantis' flamboyant-ness possibly cross dressing? heavy breathing?
ravensedgesom ago
Here's another documentary worth checking into about a massive pedophile online sting operation called operation ore 1997 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg2Xb-5hxjs BTW that voicemail message was so refreshing
Scoundrel ago
Antinous?
freeagent37 ago
Great questions! Pretty strange sick posts for sure!
Antonius ago
JA is just the tip of the iceberg. Also, I can recall back in highschool, we used to joke around about CHICKENHAWKS...but they are real!
Boud8814 ago
Yeah, even though JA is only the tip of the iceberg, this question sums it up. But we have to go beyond JA, we have enough on him in a just world, which hopefully we will when Trump starts his law and order persidency... WE CAN NOT LET THIS STOP AT JUST JA! Good post though
Fateswebb ago
The deal is. It actually started with podesta, James is just really loose about it being obvious so we followed the path that was laid out. Almost like breadcrumbs. They were intentionally laid out, but not to lead us, just with the belief that nobody would notice. Problem is now we noticed. The alefantis line of the investigation is mostly a dead end. And wait before you call me a shill, I agree that James is up to no good, but think about it this way. We start at podesta and we work downward with James. Sure we got the dirt mostly, and there is more we're sure to uncover, but the fact is we're working downward not upward. It's good, but even better would be exposing more of the upward connections. Which we have mostly laid out as well, except there just aren't nearly as many details since James laid out a lot of crumbs. I fear as well they will do something to make it look localized to James when the point is he is a small player in a huge ring.
Orange_Circle ago
The confusing thing is that Podesta HATES Brock and does not trust him, and thinks he's crazy and a complete freak.
In the Podesta email exchanges with Alefantis, James is very much the suck-up brown-noser, and effusive in a sickening way. Podesta seems to hold him at arms length.
When Brock wanted Tony Podesta to hold a book party for him, Tony had to get permission from John first. John ok'd it, but wouldn't reply to various other invitations to attend or came up with an excuse not to go to any Brock book parties.
Then Lynn Rothschild sent an email that smells like a a command that he attend a Brock book party that she was involved with.
So during all this time, Alefantis seems to get closer to Tony. Alefantis and Brock break up, and Heather and Tony Podesta break up.
Next thing you know, Tony is hosting a birthday party for Alefantis complete with a big grey flaccid penis-shaped birthday cake.
Pizzalurker15 ago
Upvoated you but would have loved some sources. Mostly for the rothschild email, Very interesting
Orange_Circle ago
Love this one:
Is Brock a Manchurian plant or just a soulless narcissist? Neera & John weigh in: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/20529
Orange_Circle ago
Mary Pat Bonner: I hadn’t heard back and wanted to send you another quick note about the book party this Thursday evening to celebrate the release of David Brock’s new book—Killing the Messenger.
John Podesta: I have a conflict.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/55421
Orange_Circle ago
Invite to John from Lynn Rothschild (who Neera Tanden calls, "that crazy Rothschild lade.")
https://i.sli.mg/OTcsmz.png
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7397
Orange_Circle ago
I may have that wrong on the Rothschild email, or else I just can't find it now. It looks like the very direct email was from Mary Pat Bronner telling John to be at the party for Brock at Rothschild's home.
Tony asking John's permission to host a David Brock book party. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/50541
Orange_Circle ago
Thanks! I read the Rotchschild email in Wikileaks, I'll try and find it again.
tehthu ago
Well, bear in mind, all that's needed in a RICO case is more than one person of a conspiracy and the entire network can be indicted.
The important question is will Sessions prosecute (provided Trump is allowed to reach the inauguration)?
salinaslayer ago
They're fucked, even if they get Trump, Mike Pence will fry them
Fateswebb ago
Exactly, this new federalizations of the elections appears to be a move to stop trump. And clearly unconstitutional at that.