I don't think that they are shills. I think that people are genuinely concerned for the well being of the community. A lot of people have made good cases to support their arguments.
why use your real facebook acc and such if your connacting someone who we assume has no respect for human life? We don't connact we don't harass we research put togethr the dots we are non volience here and not harassing nobody that smart woudl use their own facebook to connact JA and if you are that stupid well get off the internet its not the place for you
Your questions are great for normal people, but we're talking about James and friends, who are very powerful, and they can play mental games with us. This could all be a hoax, so it wouldn't really be his own Facebook account. I don't understand why you can't see that.
Nobody's accusing him of being a CIA agent, but why is it out of the question for you? The CIA lied to the Iranians, so that the public would overthrow a democratically elected government, who cared about the well being of the locals. At least try to understand that.
The text said FBI. It would also make sense as to who's covering up for him. We know they're covering up for some top-dog shit (podesta leaks, Clinton, Obama etc, etc) so although JA is a small dog, he's obviously being covered up and protected; which also explain the media cover-up to replace an actual non-partisan investigation.
If he wasn't part of it they wouldn't be doing the investigation run-around, as shown on this link describing Brian's application for information on the investigation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDn9_w7lSAI
This could be legit.
but if this dude is a Trojan horse....
I wait to see documentation and videographing of his interview with a lawyer, because I'd be getting legal advise if somebody threatened my child. If he doesn't get lawyers advise, and his story is legit, then he has no law in his corner and he's a sitting duck who's unprotected.
If he gets a lawyer in his corner and periscopes himself 24/7 sharing data, then I'll really know he's legit, and he'll need some major support.
In spite of the fact that I think he's a loose cannon with no forethought or plan, I'd support him when I know he has a lawyer and vids the legal info.... which he should do to protect himself.
this guy is a career criminal who prob just anally purged all of any evidence of any of this happening and hes going to risk getting cuaght by punking on some random pizzagate dude? it just doesn't sound right/ IF i have millions of dollars im not going to waste a breath on some little punk from TX. James is smarter then that. the guys been doing this for a while now and if its real then The JA has some big balls or alot of powerful people in this pocket
I don't think JAmes is smarter than that.
I think he's really cocky, sloppy and stupid, which is why his cocky untouchable arrogance has left a big trail.
nah he just never in a million years would expect that podestas emails would be leaked and expose him. hindsight is 20/20 im bet he is kicking him self now thou Also alot of his pictures it looks like hes in love with the CoCo
I don't mean to split hairs over semantics, but isn't that the same thing I'm saying?
Not expecting leaked podesta stratfor emails = invincible = untouchable = cocky spirit cooking and referencing cannibal shit, pics all over the place set to public view, secret group activity with the sloppy use of code words and descriptions of the codes.
Obama's interview with chef Bourdain, discussing the age of children using hotdog mustard as code = more cocky arrogance = really, really stupid = opposite of smart.
This is the mind of sociopathy psychopathy. Eventually they slip up, their habits and stupidity overcome their smarts.
I don't think they thought the public would catch hold of it, because this far the public has put their head down and ignored everything since before the Franklin Scandal - project flicker, etc. = stupid, invincible, egomaniacal untouchable sociopathy behavior.
(but you're welcome to your own opinion of course.)
:)
I agree. I don't understand what these strangers hope to accomplish by announcing that we are watching them. It's the exact opposite thing to do. It's like saying, "Hi. We're trying to figure out if you're evil. We're going to look into your emails in 10 minutes. Don't delete anything incriminating. I'll be right back.".
But you're forgetting the personality type of this guy. Sociopath/Narcissist. This is exactly the kind of thing they do, they can't resist. They are smart and calculating, but also have a huge ego and need for control and power, and they also take huge stupid risks, even if it could backfire on them - they often are neurologically incapable of really believing they could go wrong or make a mistake. It's difficult to understand one of these types until you've actually known one. They are just the worst kinds of people in the world, even the ones who aren't involved in crimes and murder etc.
The conversation he showed between JA and himself - the way JA wrote and threatened and then did a bit of buddy buddy and bragged and generally manipulated the guy, it's all textbook for that kind of individual. And yeah the guy obviously does have a lot of powerful people in his pocket and probably feels pretty untouchable.
It's difficult to understand one of these types until you've actually known one.
Amen brother. I think humanity needs a psychopath test that can't be beaten. Some kind of fMRI technology that accurately identifies these sick fucks walking amongst us.
When they are found they should be carefully monitored like a parole agent monitors a criminal. Also they should be banned from positions of power. They are genetic freaks.
I think humanity needs a psychopath test that can't be beaten. Some kind of fMRI technology that accurately identifies these sick fucks walking amongst us.
There is a test. I think that there was an article on reddit a couple of years ago, where a scientist put himself and his family into a big study. They were all just regular test subjects for extra data. He found out that somebody in his family was a sociopath/psychopath. He knew that he shouldn't have removed the label to find out who it was, but he did it anyways. He was shocked to find out that it was him. He reflected on it, and it all made sense. He mentioned that he had always had this cold competitiveness in boardgaming and other social interactions. He then went on to try to be nicer.
Yeah I read that. There is a test but you can't get people to take it unless they want to. He was a functioning psychopath that had channeled his talents into a respectable profession - neuro scientist as I recall. Everyone that knew him who later found out were not at all surprised because evidently he just came off as an asshole.
I have a member (or two) of my family that are similar. Giant assholes, no clue about empathy, sympathy, understanding, etc, etc, who just go through life shitting all over everyone that gets in their way. They genuinely don't have a clue. I've come to loathe them so much so that I'll likely not even attend their funerals if they die before me. Conversely they'll not know if I'm in the hospital dying because I never want to see them again. I hate psychopaths. They should all be exterminated - the world would be a much better place.
The scariest part is that you've described my dad and brother. My dad thinks that I'm crazy, and my brother thinks that I have Asperger's syndrome. I might have it, but I'm just shocked at how much they try to get away with things, without any concern for others. I have debated with myself about whether or not I should attend their funerals.
So, you really think that anybody diagnosed with psychopath should be literally exterminated? In a way, it makes sense, because they break laws. I think that it's impossible for sociopaths and psychopaths to be good citizens.
It certainly explains that fat people hate subreddit.
Yeah my brother and to a lesser extent sister and mother.
I can be pretty cutting to stupid people. SJW's and generally anyone who comes off as a clueless, unemphatic virtue signaling shitstain but I have to say I can't get in to the whole fat people hate thing. I don't hate anyone for what God (I use God as a place holder for whatever) made them. I suppose I should be as forgiving of psychopaths as they likely were also genetically programmed to be what they are but I'm just not able to. They are reptiles in human form.
When I say they should be exterminated I mean nature should have killed off those genetic traits somewhere along the way. The arc of humanity is teetering on a knife's edge because we went from hunter gatherers to an industrialized society in the blink of an evolutionary eye. Psychopaths had their place but IMO have become a huge liability from a human evolutionary standpoint.
Relentless pursuit of profit, control and resources is the lifeblood of the psychopath. They even mirrored their mental state into an external structure called the corporation.
Cut your ties dude. They won't change and engaging them in any way is a losing proposition. The only winning move is not to play...
When I say they should be exterminated I mean nature should have killed off those genetic traits somewhere along the way. The arc of humanity is teetering on a knife's edge because we went from hunter gatherers to an industrialized society in the blink of an evolutionary eye. Psychopaths had their place but IMO have become a huge liability from a human evolutionary standpoint.
The way that you described them reminds me of cancer cells. Our bodies should try to get rid of them. Whatever these cells have to offer can be obtained elsewhere.
NP. It took me a long time to figure out what the fuck happened to me. I have been gaslighted since I can remember and it really fucked with my head. If you want to understand the psychopath I recommend the book by Robert Hare called Without Conscience. He wrote the book (or list as it were) on how to detect psychopathy. Really interesting stuff. Because of the way I was raised, I can ferret out a psychopath or narcissist almost instantly upon meeting them.
The other thing to remember is the anti social personality disorder is a scale. Psychopaths are not all Ted Bundy. Narcissism is the lower end of the psychopathic scale so just because someone sometimes appears to show humility, empathy, sympathy or generally seems to be caring about someone other than themselves, it's usually just an act.
Sorry you have that in your family. It's a tough thing to deal with. Just know if they truly are in the narcissistic/sociopathic/psychopathic range, they won't change. That was the hardest lesson I ever learned. I went from really caring about certain people to watching the relationships slowly wither on the vine, knowing that I was the only one that truly loved or gave a fuck. People like this are not worth your time. I don't mean that to sound like you're better than them or you should be mean to them. I just mean they will never affirm you and will always use you for their own ends - that is what I mean by not worth your time.
just because someone sometimes appears to show humility, empathy, sympathy or generally seems to be caring about someone other than themselves, it's usually just an act.
That's frightening to think about. Fortunately, we don't have to let it hurt us.
Sorry you have that in your family. It's a tough thing to deal with. Just know if they truly are in the narcissistic/sociopathic/psychopathic range, they won't change.
Just for the record, I'm not fully convinced that they have this, but it just seems strange, that after all these years, they seem to struggle with being altruistic. They always ask that question: "Why should I?". To have to explain to them why they should be more community minded or whatever, seems so tedious to me, and it seems so foreign to them.
As for the rest of your comments, I appreciate that.
Unfortunately, I am stuck with them for a while. If doors of new opportunities open, then maybe I can try going through.
This is something i am actually hoping to be working on! A way of diagnosing the predisposition at birth and then following up with the child to ensure they are being given extra love and stuff - you may have the brain structure of a psychopath but if your early childhood experiences are positive and loving and you have decent parents that reinforce good behaviour, you will likely grow up to be just your garden variety asshole, but generally alright. Also, if possible, some kind of cure. At the moment there is no cure or even a possibility of one. But I know we can find one, there are many facets to empathy but essentially you need to ensure the person has enough mirror neurons and that their output elicits the relevant emotional response.
I've always wondered why there is not more research in this area, because if we could ensure every human being had empathy, and by that I mean affective empathy, not cognitive empathy, the world would be a much much better place. I'm sure sociopaths served their purpose when we were living in small tribes, but having these kinds of people in charge of the whole world's population of human beings is basically an explosive and horrific evolutionary dead end. Possibly even a planetary dead end.
guys like this don't do their own dirty work if he was going to kil him hes not going to threat him on facebook first? thats just dumb and nobody is making that mistake
He didn't threaten him on Facebook though. There was nothing he wrote in the messages that was a threat, he could explain it all away as something else, like, 'I just thought they made a cute couple in that pic and wanted to show him which pic I meant.' The threats to kill were made one the phone.
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nitro169 ago
Wow, it sure seemed to clean up the shills...
Investigate1999 ago
I don't think that they are shills. I think that people are genuinely concerned for the well being of the community. A lot of people have made good cases to support their arguments.
hanknut42 ago
why use your real facebook acc and such if your connacting someone who we assume has no respect for human life? We don't connact we don't harass we research put togethr the dots we are non volience here and not harassing nobody that smart woudl use their own facebook to connact JA and if you are that stupid well get off the internet its not the place for you
Investigate1999 ago
Your questions are great for normal people, but we're talking about James and friends, who are very powerful, and they can play mental games with us. This could all be a hoax, so it wouldn't really be his own Facebook account. I don't understand why you can't see that.
Nobody's accusing him of being a CIA agent, but why is it out of the question for you? The CIA lied to the Iranians, so that the public would overthrow a democratically elected government, who cared about the well being of the locals. At least try to understand that.
Nana66 ago
I think if this is actually real then Alefantis probably has CIA or someone dealing with his accounts messages.
cosmicmind ago
The text said FBI. It would also make sense as to who's covering up for him. We know they're covering up for some top-dog shit (podesta leaks, Clinton, Obama etc, etc) so although JA is a small dog, he's obviously being covered up and protected; which also explain the media cover-up to replace an actual non-partisan investigation. If he wasn't part of it they wouldn't be doing the investigation run-around, as shown on this link describing Brian's application for information on the investigation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDn9_w7lSAI
This could be legit.
but if this dude is a Trojan horse....
I wait to see documentation and videographing of his interview with a lawyer, because I'd be getting legal advise if somebody threatened my child. If he doesn't get lawyers advise, and his story is legit, then he has no law in his corner and he's a sitting duck who's unprotected.
If he gets a lawyer in his corner and periscopes himself 24/7 sharing data, then I'll really know he's legit, and he'll need some major support.
In spite of the fact that I think he's a loose cannon with no forethought or plan, I'd support him when I know he has a lawyer and vids the legal info.... which he should do to protect himself.
hanknut42 ago
this guy is a career criminal who prob just anally purged all of any evidence of any of this happening and hes going to risk getting cuaght by punking on some random pizzagate dude? it just doesn't sound right/ IF i have millions of dollars im not going to waste a breath on some little punk from TX. James is smarter then that. the guys been doing this for a while now and if its real then The JA has some big balls or alot of powerful people in this pocket
cosmicmind ago
I don't think JAmes is smarter than that.
I think he's really cocky, sloppy and stupid, which is why his cocky untouchable arrogance has left a big trail.
hanknut42 ago
nah he just never in a million years would expect that podestas emails would be leaked and expose him. hindsight is 20/20 im bet he is kicking him self now thou Also alot of his pictures it looks like hes in love with the CoCo
cosmicmind ago
I don't mean to split hairs over semantics, but isn't that the same thing I'm saying?
Not expecting leaked podesta stratfor emails = invincible = untouchable = cocky spirit cooking and referencing cannibal shit, pics all over the place set to public view, secret group activity with the sloppy use of code words and descriptions of the codes. Obama's interview with chef Bourdain, discussing the age of children using hotdog mustard as code = more cocky arrogance = really, really stupid = opposite of smart. This is the mind of sociopathy psychopathy. Eventually they slip up, their habits and stupidity overcome their smarts.
I don't think they thought the public would catch hold of it, because this far the public has put their head down and ignored everything since before the Franklin Scandal - project flicker, etc. = stupid, invincible, egomaniacal untouchable sociopathy behavior.
(but you're welcome to your own opinion of course.)
:)
Investigate1999 ago
I agree. I don't understand what these strangers hope to accomplish by announcing that we are watching them. It's the exact opposite thing to do. It's like saying, "Hi. We're trying to figure out if you're evil. We're going to look into your emails in 10 minutes. Don't delete anything incriminating. I'll be right back.".
SpikyAube ago
But you're forgetting the personality type of this guy. Sociopath/Narcissist. This is exactly the kind of thing they do, they can't resist. They are smart and calculating, but also have a huge ego and need for control and power, and they also take huge stupid risks, even if it could backfire on them - they often are neurologically incapable of really believing they could go wrong or make a mistake. It's difficult to understand one of these types until you've actually known one. They are just the worst kinds of people in the world, even the ones who aren't involved in crimes and murder etc.
The conversation he showed between JA and himself - the way JA wrote and threatened and then did a bit of buddy buddy and bragged and generally manipulated the guy, it's all textbook for that kind of individual. And yeah the guy obviously does have a lot of powerful people in his pocket and probably feels pretty untouchable.
SayWhatNOWAY ago
Look at how Scott Peterson acted!
HashTagFU ago
Amen brother. I think humanity needs a psychopath test that can't be beaten. Some kind of fMRI technology that accurately identifies these sick fucks walking amongst us.
When they are found they should be carefully monitored like a parole agent monitors a criminal. Also they should be banned from positions of power. They are genetic freaks.
Investigate1999 ago
There is a test. I think that there was an article on reddit a couple of years ago, where a scientist put himself and his family into a big study. They were all just regular test subjects for extra data. He found out that somebody in his family was a sociopath/psychopath. He knew that he shouldn't have removed the label to find out who it was, but he did it anyways. He was shocked to find out that it was him. He reflected on it, and it all made sense. He mentioned that he had always had this cold competitiveness in boardgaming and other social interactions. He then went on to try to be nicer.
HashTagFU ago
Yeah I read that. There is a test but you can't get people to take it unless they want to. He was a functioning psychopath that had channeled his talents into a respectable profession - neuro scientist as I recall. Everyone that knew him who later found out were not at all surprised because evidently he just came off as an asshole.
I have a member (or two) of my family that are similar. Giant assholes, no clue about empathy, sympathy, understanding, etc, etc, who just go through life shitting all over everyone that gets in their way. They genuinely don't have a clue. I've come to loathe them so much so that I'll likely not even attend their funerals if they die before me. Conversely they'll not know if I'm in the hospital dying because I never want to see them again. I hate psychopaths. They should all be exterminated - the world would be a much better place.
Investigate1999 ago
The scariest part is that you've described my dad and brother. My dad thinks that I'm crazy, and my brother thinks that I have Asperger's syndrome. I might have it, but I'm just shocked at how much they try to get away with things, without any concern for others. I have debated with myself about whether or not I should attend their funerals.
So, you really think that anybody diagnosed with psychopath should be literally exterminated? In a way, it makes sense, because they break laws. I think that it's impossible for sociopaths and psychopaths to be good citizens.
It certainly explains that fat people hate subreddit.
HashTagFU ago
Yeah my brother and to a lesser extent sister and mother.
I can be pretty cutting to stupid people. SJW's and generally anyone who comes off as a clueless, unemphatic virtue signaling shitstain but I have to say I can't get in to the whole fat people hate thing. I don't hate anyone for what God (I use God as a place holder for whatever) made them. I suppose I should be as forgiving of psychopaths as they likely were also genetically programmed to be what they are but I'm just not able to. They are reptiles in human form.
When I say they should be exterminated I mean nature should have killed off those genetic traits somewhere along the way. The arc of humanity is teetering on a knife's edge because we went from hunter gatherers to an industrialized society in the blink of an evolutionary eye. Psychopaths had their place but IMO have become a huge liability from a human evolutionary standpoint.
Relentless pursuit of profit, control and resources is the lifeblood of the psychopath. They even mirrored their mental state into an external structure called the corporation.
Cut your ties dude. They won't change and engaging them in any way is a losing proposition. The only winning move is not to play...
Investigate1999 ago
The way that you described them reminds me of cancer cells. Our bodies should try to get rid of them. Whatever these cells have to offer can be obtained elsewhere.
By the way, thanks for your advice.
HashTagFU ago
NP. It took me a long time to figure out what the fuck happened to me. I have been gaslighted since I can remember and it really fucked with my head. If you want to understand the psychopath I recommend the book by Robert Hare called Without Conscience. He wrote the book (or list as it were) on how to detect psychopathy. Really interesting stuff. Because of the way I was raised, I can ferret out a psychopath or narcissist almost instantly upon meeting them.
The other thing to remember is the anti social personality disorder is a scale. Psychopaths are not all Ted Bundy. Narcissism is the lower end of the psychopathic scale so just because someone sometimes appears to show humility, empathy, sympathy or generally seems to be caring about someone other than themselves, it's usually just an act.
Sorry you have that in your family. It's a tough thing to deal with. Just know if they truly are in the narcissistic/sociopathic/psychopathic range, they won't change. That was the hardest lesson I ever learned. I went from really caring about certain people to watching the relationships slowly wither on the vine, knowing that I was the only one that truly loved or gave a fuck. People like this are not worth your time. I don't mean that to sound like you're better than them or you should be mean to them. I just mean they will never affirm you and will always use you for their own ends - that is what I mean by not worth your time.
Investigate1999 ago
That's frightening to think about. Fortunately, we don't have to let it hurt us.
Just for the record, I'm not fully convinced that they have this, but it just seems strange, that after all these years, they seem to struggle with being altruistic. They always ask that question: "Why should I?". To have to explain to them why they should be more community minded or whatever, seems so tedious to me, and it seems so foreign to them.
As for the rest of your comments, I appreciate that.
Unfortunately, I am stuck with them for a while. If doors of new opportunities open, then maybe I can try going through.
SpikyAube ago
This is something i am actually hoping to be working on! A way of diagnosing the predisposition at birth and then following up with the child to ensure they are being given extra love and stuff - you may have the brain structure of a psychopath but if your early childhood experiences are positive and loving and you have decent parents that reinforce good behaviour, you will likely grow up to be just your garden variety asshole, but generally alright. Also, if possible, some kind of cure. At the moment there is no cure or even a possibility of one. But I know we can find one, there are many facets to empathy but essentially you need to ensure the person has enough mirror neurons and that their output elicits the relevant emotional response.
I've always wondered why there is not more research in this area, because if we could ensure every human being had empathy, and by that I mean affective empathy, not cognitive empathy, the world would be a much much better place. I'm sure sociopaths served their purpose when we were living in small tribes, but having these kinds of people in charge of the whole world's population of human beings is basically an explosive and horrific evolutionary dead end. Possibly even a planetary dead end.
Investigate1999 ago
It all sounds more like a disability to me. If you are willing to portray it as such, then more power to you.
HashTagFU ago
Yeah, sad that a small portion of the population can cause so much damage. I hope you figure it out.
FriesischShipping ago
They are basically doing that to us. No blackmail? No job!
hanknut42 ago
guys like this don't do their own dirty work if he was going to kil him hes not going to threat him on facebook first? thats just dumb and nobody is making that mistake
SpikyAube ago
He didn't threaten him on Facebook though. There was nothing he wrote in the messages that was a threat, he could explain it all away as something else, like, 'I just thought they made a cute couple in that pic and wanted to show him which pic I meant.' The threats to kill were made one the phone.
hanknut42 ago
dude even doxxes him self in the video thats ametuer hour 101