Just want to give a heads-up about Gunderson. Personally, I believe he was a shill. He has been a promoter of just about every bogus theory one can come up with: reptilians, FEMA internment camps, a United Nations army taking over the United States, chemtrails, "pineapple bombs" at Oklahoma, no-planes on 9/11
COINTELPRO is an FBI program aimed at disrupting dissidents. I believe Gunderson's goal was actually to discredit conspiracy research by introducing fake evidence, "poisoning the well," giving talks to groups of conspiracy researches to get them to adopt bad evidence and false "tinfoil hat" versions of their theories (e.g. "no plane at the Pentagon"), in order to discredit the true general claims (e.g. 9/11 = inside job) with the general public. Basic "black propaganda." He promoted the McMartin Preschool case as an example of an elite pedophile ring. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of "false memories" that spawned the whole concept.
Some of the things you say, like no plane at the pentagon, are very credible claims. There is actually no evidence of a plane at the pentagon.. it's just how the story was told.. outside of a single engine and a couple pieces of aluminum. Nothing there and nothing in the one released video. I believe there is some evidence for chemtrails as well, but yeah the lizard people thing always get me.. how some people believe that shit is beyond me. I have a perfectly intelligent friend that believes it and I just am like wtf... when theories like that are floated it turns people off to all the rest.
Some of the things you say, like no plane at the pentagon, are very credible claims.
It has been made to appear credible by people trying to deceive you. D.C. is densely populated. There's a multilane highway that goes right by the Pentagon. Thousands of people saw the plane. The Pentagon itself is like its own little city. The idea that they would have even tried to use a missile, and expect to get away with it, is ludicrous.
I think the plane may have actually flown over the building, it's not disinformation a plane did not hit that building its impossible, check the first pictures before the building collapsed after a bit, the entire plane would have to have disappeared into a single window of the building. Impossible man. It was another mind fuck.
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Millennial_Falcon ago
Just want to give a heads-up about Gunderson. Personally, I believe he was a shill. He has been a promoter of just about every bogus theory one can come up with: reptilians, FEMA internment camps, a United Nations army taking over the United States, chemtrails, "pineapple bombs" at Oklahoma, no-planes on 9/11
COINTELPRO is an FBI program aimed at disrupting dissidents. I believe Gunderson's goal was actually to discredit conspiracy research by introducing fake evidence, "poisoning the well," giving talks to groups of conspiracy researches to get them to adopt bad evidence and false "tinfoil hat" versions of their theories (e.g. "no plane at the Pentagon"), in order to discredit the true general claims (e.g. 9/11 = inside job) with the general public. Basic "black propaganda." He promoted the McMartin Preschool case as an example of an elite pedophile ring. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of "false memories" that spawned the whole concept.
Fateswebb ago
Some of the things you say, like no plane at the pentagon, are very credible claims. There is actually no evidence of a plane at the pentagon.. it's just how the story was told.. outside of a single engine and a couple pieces of aluminum. Nothing there and nothing in the one released video. I believe there is some evidence for chemtrails as well, but yeah the lizard people thing always get me.. how some people believe that shit is beyond me. I have a perfectly intelligent friend that believes it and I just am like wtf... when theories like that are floated it turns people off to all the rest.
Millennial_Falcon ago
It has been made to appear credible by people trying to deceive you. D.C. is densely populated. There's a multilane highway that goes right by the Pentagon. Thousands of people saw the plane. The Pentagon itself is like its own little city. The idea that they would have even tried to use a missile, and expect to get away with it, is ludicrous.
Fateswebb ago
I think the plane may have actually flown over the building, it's not disinformation a plane did not hit that building its impossible, check the first pictures before the building collapsed after a bit, the entire plane would have to have disappeared into a single window of the building. Impossible man. It was another mind fuck.
pissfractal ago
Im not here to advocate for Gunderson, but lets see a source for these THOUSANDS of witnesses that saw a plane actually impact the pentagon