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Kawksnahch ago

If you don't understand how Kim Noble is involved, then you probably think Cathy O'Brien isn't either.

Anyone talking about those two is old school hardcore. Pizzagate IS MK Ultra/Monarch.

That's how she's related.

OTPROPHET ago

Let me reiterate attempting to pull Cathy O'Brien into PG is a bad, misguided idea. For one, there is no actual connection. None, zero, zip. This investigation needs leads, leads to built a case, and even need historic background material that may not be directly related. Citing Nick Bryant's work related to the Franklin Case is an entirely legitimate example of providing historic background that is not directly related. That's because Nick Bryant has published an incredibly, meticulously researched work that is factually airtight with hundreds of references and first-hand evidence. Citing Cathy O'Brien is not a legitimate example of historic background. I would like to see any research anywhere that has corroborated her claims with any kind of proof, evidence, or even a solid case to support her claims. I'm actually sympathetic and interested in her story, but do not drag that shit in here. It's an outlandish and unsubstantiated story. Right now, the MSM is running with the narrative that PizzaGate = Hillary Clinton personally trafficking children and filming porn in Comet Pizza. How do you think bringing up a O'Brien is going to win minds and change hearts. It's idiotic and unhelpful. Stop it.

Fateswebb ago

The fact is Cathy has for years claimed he have been a product of mkultra mind control and that she was molestsed by the powerful, and has even seen Hillary and bill in the act of doing so. That is EXACTLY what we are investigating. So what you're saying is that while years ago she made the accusation, she couldn't possibly be related to it, that's just insane. So we should look for the tie ins, clearly she didn't make it up or the coincidences are just too much to be true.

Pizzainmyass ago

I know I was just mad about the connection that isn't there. I 100% agree she's very relevant and knows significantly more than I ever will without people like her.

Kawksnahch ago

MK Ultra and Monarch, et al, IS the connection.

That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Pizzainmyass ago

I know I know check the edit

OTPROPHET ago

Except for proof, evidence, of anything to do at all remotely with PG, you may have a point about these two victims who are being dragged into the mix because reasons.

postfascion ago

Related in that she is the product of the programming, but I think what the OP is getting at is that she isnt necessarily perpetuating it. This maybe isn't a popular view, but all the humans involved are victims of the sick society we live under. Pointing fingers too much can be dangerous. This isn't an attack, from what you said it is obvious you want this shit to stop. Just friendly advice.

Kawksnahch ago

Notice... everyone saying that Kim and Cathy aren't related always dance around the MK Ultra/Monarch angle. ;)

Cathy talks about her dealings with Michael Aquino... he keeps coming up in PG stuff... but... lol

It's kinda seeming like they're trying to separate the two things on purpose.

Theupsidedown ago

Because those two victims have already been discredited publicly and so will only serve to bring this investigation to the tinfoil hat realm in the eyes of the general public. That's why it's counterproductive to include their story in this investigation. Also because no new facts regarding their situations are forthcoming so it's kind of jay a circle jerk to keep posting their shit in this forum.

Kawksnahch ago

discredited? sawce

Theupsidedown ago

Look it up dude, they were summarily dismissed when they came out with that stuff. O'brien because of mentioning shape shifting reptilians and noble due to have 12 personalities or whatever. I believe their stories (minus the lizard part - most likely mk ultra programming specifically to make them discredit themselves if they speak out), but they won't help our cause.

Kawksnahch ago

the only shape shifting lizard part i remember was a drug and projection induced optical illusion.