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bopper ago

Not sure about these particular children being trafficked (or whatever) but Sandy Hook is a hard thing for many to get their head around, you will suffer some cognitive dissonance, but don't be afraid to have an open mind, and question those things that others are questioning. I'm pretty reasonable and skeptical and I now believe it was a complete hoax. Though, as I say, I don't know about the ultimate 'fate' of the children. (Would you wait calmly at the fire station if your kid was lying riddled with bullets in a schoolroom, and then acquiesce in not identifying the body?) Everything stinks nowadays (and has for a while) ... why no autopsy on Scalia, etc., etc. My opinion would be that the children were not subsequently abused, but who knows.

srayzie ago

Even if Sandy hook was a hoax, wouldn't the real students be alive? Wouldn't parents of dead children have received their child's body for burial? I'm not understanding the connection either?

bopper ago

Well, assuming that the school was indeed not a complete set-up (it is extremely suspicious) and that a true classroom was actually in 'session.' All that was shown by MSM was one particular group of kids calmly being ushered away. Again, extremely suspicious when you research it. There is (supposed) evidence that the particular 'murdered' children are older and accounted for, I haven't had time to research it.

I know it's difficult to grasp, but if this was a completely staged event (a psy-op using 'crisis actors') then there were no bodies, and no real, and grieving, parents. My wife won't hear of it, and I understand. But I've done my homework, and it's farcical. Child tragedies are particularly used in the MSM because any story involving a dead or harmed child is totally hands off and untouchable and must be believed, or you are a heartless psychopath. It works best on moms. Surprise. I'm sorry to tell you these things,

How can these things be? My best way to put it is, it's like when you watch a magic show. The reaction is unbelievable ... "wow how did they do that." But they 'did' it, right before your eyes.

srayzie ago

There has always been something that has bothered me. If 911 was an inside job, which I believe it is. So, if one of the theories is true, where commercial airplanes did not really fly into the buildings, but instead missils or something, then what happened to the people on the planes? I've wondered for years if maybe these people have been taken for CIA testing or something? Oh and by the way, my husband won't listen to the Sandyhook thing either. I hate it because I have nobody to talk to about my conspiracy questions!

bopper ago

For crying out loud, your husband and my wife! Frustrating I know ... "oh please." Yeah I believe no planes, no people. I have no idea how they did that. But I've figured out a lot. I kind of think there was something else done, maybe somehow there were no people after all. What's funny (and not) is the whole "Let's Roll" story. The dirty tricksters are slick, gotta give the sheeple a good hero story. And one of them has to be 'gay' of course. My wife loves it. To really blow your mind google Dr. Judy Woods. I believe she has the truth, crazy as it sounds. That's why there was no rubble at the scene. Maybe a lot will be revealed with Trump.

DustyRadio ago

I read her book long ago. She has the most comprehensive explanation for the baffling and impossible sequence of events of 9/11. It's so out there though, many people will automatically label you a kook if you bring it up. I figure 9/11 will never be known, not the whole truth.

bopper ago

Crazy stuff I know, but the only theory that answers so many questions. She's an outcast. Glad people are aware of so much nowadays. Well at least some, my wife watches Master Chef ha ha.

srayzie ago

I know! So, where do you think the people went? I hope they aren't being CIA tested or undergoing alien/human reproduction. I know that sounds crazy but I wouldn't doubt it. I remember the "Let's roll" story! In those days, cell service couldn't even reach that high! I'll check out Dr Judy Woods.

DefenderOfTruth ago

To answer your question on the possible 9/11 airplane people, some have done research on the names and the "passengers" never existed. The flight list was completely fabricated. The flameouts "let's roll" guy was also fake. If you research him, his circumstances were also sketchy and there are lots more holes.

My husband is iffy about this stuff too. He listens, but hasn't absorbed much. I enjoy talking conspiracy theories (and believe most are more real than the "official narrative" will ever be). So, feel free to PM me if you want to talk to someone.

bopper ago

Yes this is probably correct. Thanks for the comments (though I know they weren't directed to me). What is it with these husbands? smile

DefenderOfTruth ago

Haha, I know! He's a grounded sort of guy, but he listens when I rattle on, so at least I have that. :)

bopper ago

Half of something is better than all of nothing. I've got nothing! Good for you.

srayzie ago

I've watched part of a documentary on this. I agree it's suspicious. But, according to the theory, is it believed that a different older group of children were murdered? Is that what you mean by them looking older? If so, why not just kill the real children that went there? Also, how could real parents of other students, teachers and staff all go along with it? Wouldn't the kids that were supposedly murdered be seen later by family and friends?

So, even tho I agree it's suspicious, how are all my questions I stated above? Can you explain more?

bopper ago

I mean that the original falsely murdered children are (evidently) still around, and older. Supposedly. But I've only touched on this myself. They simply (whoever did this) think they can allow them to pop up here and there and no one will notice. Like they use oftentimes the same crisis actors in different false flags (like Orlando). But the internet and amateur sleuths are uncovering too much. (And possibly some of the others, that 'survived' are still around.)

It would have been discovered, I believe, too easily, if real children were really murdered (even if there were no 'parents' involved). Plus too much trouble (though I wouldn't put anything past them). A bloody mess. On the contrary the crime scene is relatively calm and quite sanitized, no real signs of panic or trauma etc.) In some false flags people really are killed. To view what real trauma looks like watch the video below (not a false flag, and gripping to say the least).

"Real parents and teachers." There are none. It was a very controlled and staged set-up, like a movie. Everybody played a part. They are probably paid well and under non-disclosure, and probably threatened. There is in fact a crisis actor's guild. That's how some of the actors were busted. I know it sounds nuts but psychopaths rise to the top of society and government, and are controlled by other psychopaths. And they want to rob you blind and control you. They're sick.

No one is to be pronounced dead at a scene unless they are visibly beheaded. The opposite happened here. No one rushing in to save anybody. Sorry if I haven't addressed things better. It was a very slick deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3gsQJ7afrE

srayzie ago

That would be so horrible. Do you mean teachers and staff were not there that day? I've seen stuff on crisis actors. You would think they would act better. They seem robotic

bopper ago

It was a total scam, for a gun grab. Really tugged at our hearts did it not? It goes deep, the whole town is weird. Funny how no pics of Lanza on security. Funny how they bulldozed the school. And on and on. Yeah, the actors, they really look traumatized don't they? My wife would be doubled over on the floor if it was our kid. I'm sure you've seen crying Robbie Parker. You can google him. I bet the mods on here are gonna get mad at me for getting off pizzagate! smile "Staff and teachers" were there alright, script in hand. The coroner interview is a mess also.

Nana66 ago

I used to wonder how they got people to do these things and never let it get out. Now my theory is that they not only use MKUltra tactics but also those refugees they love to fight over accepting to use them to act it out after they plant some false leads about the fake victims. Same with other countries like France...they love refugees and sanctuary cities etc.

bopper ago

Maybe so, but money and bribes, and subsequently non-disclosure agreements (under severe penalty if broken) work very well also. Especially with those in the military. This was done for those military personnel who witnessed the botched and illicit autopsy of JFK at Bethesda. Heather Mills is under such an agreement now, and afraid for her life. But that's another story. (Man I'm all over the road here.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmD4qNHAOeQ

cosmicmind ago

No, I don't think you're all over the road, the reason being that the same types of techniques are used all over the place, and in all kinds of ways.
They don't have a great imagination.
When you point them out, recycled and popping up it produces a pattern. Hopefully a recognition of patterns might wake people up so we can band together enough to expose lies and demand the truth.
The patterns of lies and similar cover-ups are alarming. (although some claim the Heather Mills interview was edited.)

bopper ago

Yes, your comments about a pattern are spot on. And social media is uncovering them (can't hide). I won't keep you, but what is your opinion concerning what Heather was speaking about?

cosmicmind ago

Maybe I'll private message you, because I know a lot of people might think this conversation is muddying pizzagate, although my opinion is that it's connections toward cognitive thinking are related in the search for truth.