Discord is what v/pizzagatewhatever tries to be - a loose chat room forum
kinda like Slack or Skype or TeamSpeak.
Makes it a LOT easier to voice/type our thoughts without fear of spamming submissions
Join the pizzagate chat room here: (trust me, it's worth it) https://discord.gg/YcasPvA
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wecanhelp ago
@kevdude, OP and I have discussed this a little further in PMs, and I've been pointed to this comment of yours.
Before we add this channel as an official recommendation to the sidebar: I'm concerned about sending people to a closed-source, centralized service when we already have a privacy-focused Riot instance that is both open-source and decentralized. I also don't think it's a good idea to further divide the community between two chat services. I think this should be discussed before we add the link.
nathanwblair ago
all the same problems with v/pizzagatewhatever - which the discord replaces - arise with Discord (centralization etc.) also being open source doesn't help - ie. reddit - they just change the source code
@kevdude @wecanhelp on the security aspect of discord, investigators like @redberries use discord through tor browser, since discord works with full functionality in a browser
riot is great but isn't working, discord is. i can try and help with riot if you want
like i've said earlier, i've been coding a discord replacement, but that'll be up in like a fortnight, so until then...
wecanhelp ago
The difference is that
I think that's the minimum for anonymity with both Discord and Riot, but given the decentralized, redundant nature of Riot (technically, Matrix), there is no single point of control or failure, meaning you have to take down the entire network of participants to take down the discussion.
What's wrong with it? I'm not protecting it in that aspect as I haven't used it, merely interested.
nathanwblair ago
@wecanhelp sorry how do we know when voat changes their source code? thought it was the same system as (open source) reddit, who changed theirs without us knowing
also i agree about the decentralized nature of riot making it better, and that's why i'm writing a distributed version of Discord (which i prefer) that's scheduled to have a working version in ~14 days
wecanhelp ago
We can watch the repository on GitHub, the same as in Reddit's case. I'm not sure about your reference of Reddit changing code without the community knowing it. Was it due to some components turning out to be closed-source, or rather a human error with the changes being visible on GitHub but the community not noticing?
I don't want to discourage your work at all, but it is highly undesirable for our people to migrate to a freshly baked software that has no community peer-reviewing it and will inherently have a lot of bugs and vulnerabilities waiting to eventually be discovered and treated. Reinventing the wheel is not necessarily the good strategy.
nathanwblair ago
my "discord replacement" decentralizes at a https-level, there's not enough (new) code involved to have a lot of vulnerabilities, you'll see. it's definitely be superior & less vunerable than v/pizzagatewhatever (which it replaces) from the get-go
wecanhelp ago
But we already have Riot for that purpose. You're comparing to /v/pizzagatewhatever, I'm comparing to Riot. Basically, you're coming up with a third tool as a solution when we already have a tool that works both in itself and as a /v/pizzagatewhatever substitute if we decide to use it as such.