While Wikileads #55433 is one of the most cited of the Podesta emails (the "pizza related map" one) there is an aspect that is only rarely mentioned. If you look at the original message from the realtor Kathryn Tate it states: "I just came from checking the Field house and I have a square cloth handkerchief (white w/ black) that was left on the kitchen island. Happy to send it via the mail if you let me know where I should send it." This was sent to Susan and Herbert Sandler. Note that nothing was stated in this email about pizza or a map. Ms. Tate sees this as nothing more than someone left a handkerchief and she wants to know where to send it.
So now Susan Sandler emails John Podesta with "The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus (sic)? They can send it if you want. I know you’re busy, so feel free not to respond if it’s not yours or you don’t want it." So where does Ms. Sandler get the idea that this handkerchief is "pizza related" or that it has a "map" from what Ms. Tate told her? It's not to be found. So it is clear that Ms. Sandler inferred from the description that the handkerchief was potentially important. It seems that she must know something about Podesta. A literal interpretation is clearly not correct and that the words pizza and map are a cryptic reference.
Using the PIzzaGate codes this is message makes sense in that Ms. Sandler was concerned that this handkerchief might have evidence of illicit activity. Podesta's response suggests that either this is not the case here or that he just isn't worried. At any rate this construction makes this far more evidential than simply to look at it as "pizza related map" .. WTF? Rather it indicates that Ms. Sandler is familiar with Podesta's activity or at a minimum strongly suspects it. She seeks to protect him.
https://wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/55433
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tehthu ago
This is the one indisputable email in the leaks, in my opinion, for the reasons stated above and also because not a single journalist has asked John Podesta, Susan Sandler, or Kathryn Tate, what this meant. Also, Eryn Sepp was CCd on this email chain as well, giving investigators four opportunities to corroborate stories.
I've been brutal and precise about this one point on twitter lately. Want to shut people up who call you crazy for believing that there is something here? Ask them to explain what a 'pizza related handkerchief map' is, ask why John Podesta or Susan Sandler won't explain, and ask why not a single fucking "journalist" has asked any of these people that simple question. There are NO good answers.
All the tertiary evidence is circumstantial without LEO investigation and evidence chains of custody. Plus, this has been morphed into a partisan issue so people have gotten tribal about it so even less objectivity.
By my assessment, this email thread is the only objective piece of evidence us 'mere mortals' can pursue and more than half of the people who ACTUALLY read the damn thing will say "what the fuck does this mean?" and begin to walk down the rabbit hole.
This is how you get fools in checkmate on the public channels. You're not convincing the jackasses battling your logic, you're convincing anyone reading the conversation.
Beat this drum until John Podesta and Susan Sandlers ears bleed. Fuck both of them.
(I'm a little heated right now. Great work people!)
wellington33 ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1522057 #PizzaGate archive. share it so people can have all the info. Huge archive in there. 4GB.