While Wikileads #55433 is one of the most cited of the Podesta emails (the "pizza related map" one) there is an aspect that is only rarely mentioned. If you look at the original message from the realtor Kathryn Tate it states: "I just came from checking the Field house and I have a square cloth handkerchief (white w/ black) that was left on the kitchen island. Happy to send it via the mail if you let me know where I should send it." This was sent to Susan and Herbert Sandler. Note that nothing was stated in this email about pizza or a map. Ms. Tate sees this as nothing more than someone left a handkerchief and she wants to know where to send it.
So now Susan Sandler emails John Podesta with "The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus (sic)? They can send it if you want. I know you’re busy, so feel free not to respond if it’s not yours or you don’t want it." So where does Ms. Sandler get the idea that this handkerchief is "pizza related" or that it has a "map" from what Ms. Tate told her? It's not to be found. So it is clear that Ms. Sandler inferred from the description that the handkerchief was potentially important. It seems that she must know something about Podesta. A literal interpretation is clearly not correct and that the words pizza and map are a cryptic reference.
Using the PIzzaGate codes this is message makes sense in that Ms. Sandler was concerned that this handkerchief might have evidence of illicit activity. Podesta's response suggests that either this is not the case here or that he just isn't worried. At any rate this construction makes this far more evidential than simply to look at it as "pizza related map" .. WTF? Rather it indicates that Ms. Sandler is familiar with Podesta's activity or at a minimum strongly suspects it. She seeks to protect him.
https://wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/55433
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G_Gordon_Linguini ago
Excellent write up!
MAGABoomer ago
Excellent write up.
and if there was a pizza map John would have needed his pillows to keep his victim unconscious or seriously drugged. HOWEVER... Susan is revealing she knows John had pills in the house but doesn't know where they are..how does she know there were pills in the house? Did John tell her via cell? "Suz, I think i left my pills"
G_Gordon_Linguini ago
agreed. I also noticed that the day JP left the vineyard he sent a strange message to Herb saying he left a pair of his glasses behind. maybe to provide cover for a return visit?
G_Gordon_Linguini ago
Here's the thing. JP left the house the Friday before Labor Day and this email from the realtor Tate happens on Tuesday! How is his handkerchief still there on the kitchen counter not found by the hosts, the Sandlers, but found by the realtor, Tate, instead?
MAGABoomer ago
I have no idea...it's all just too much.
MAGABoomer ago
and if there was a pizza map John would have needed his pillows to keep his victim unconscious or seriously drugged. BUT Susan is revealing she knows John had pills in the house but doesn't know where they are..how does she know there were pills in the house? Did John tell her via cell? "Suz, I think i left my pills"
readstuff ago
Yes, and the Luzzatto pool party invitation and responses can also be read to confirm mutual understanding of coded references not otherwise explained in the writings themselves. In the Luzzatto case, I refer to the response that says the respondent has not had an affair.
garlicbulb ago
how did she know the bought pillows were left there?
G_Gordon_Linguini ago
could be that on the way to the airport susan sandler mentioned that she forgot them to the realtor so they could be recovered and sent back.
logjam ago
Urban dictionary also defines "pillows" as marijuana - i'm assuming a decent amount. Crossed my mind that she was looking for her weed? Too much of a stretch?
eggmunkee ago
You could be right, but I would caution that these type of people aren't necessarily going by the urban dictionary book for their code words. Maybe codewords coming out of military intelligence and intel agencies may be also more likely used? I don't know about this area, but that is my thought.
bolus ago
i'm inclined to believe that the pillows are just pillows. in my experience, everything in a rental house is for sale - and the realtor is an interior decorator. if someone just liked the throw-pillows, and had to have them, they could have bought an identical set.
maybe it's more, but i don't think the realtor was in-the-know. just imo, though.
logjam ago
I hear where you're coming from - but the 'tell me what room they are in'? I'm on mobile so I'm just going off memory.
something is way off on that Convo regardless.