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whatonearth ago

She was shot outside the Capitol, not the White House. She had tried to drive through a barricade at the White House and then the Secret Service chased her through downtown DC for several minutes before she ended up at the Capitol and was shot by Capitol Police (not the Secret Service). This ridiculous whatdoesitmean.com site can't even get those basic facts right, let alone all the other tinfoil hat nonsense about love children and CIA whatnot.

militant ago

What makes you so passionate about pizzagate?

whatonearth ago

Among other things, I didn't like the idea of people getting harassment and death threats based on supposed code words from 4chan weirdos, and I also didn't like the idea of people being threatened for expressing themselves through difficult and challenging artworks, like the paintings Biljana Djurdjevic made to express the harrowing experiences of being a young person having her life torn apart by the Balkan war.

So many people who post on v/pizzagate mix up being queer or trans or being an avant garde artist with being a child molester deserving of death, and they do so not by pointing to actual advocacy of pedophilia or finding actual examples of explicitly sexual artwork involving children (which are things I would certainly not be in favor of), but by making vague statements about things looking "weird" or indefinably "creepy", as though art is just cheerful decorations or something. There's a real undercurrent of heavy handed censorship there, when art that just looks "weird" is enough to get you accused of being part of a child sex trafficking ring.

Orange_Circle ago

An "artist" paints a picture of children being sexually molested (bastinido), Tony Podesta collects that "art" and you get on this forum and call 4channers weirdos?

No Mary, y'all are the weird ones.

whatonearth ago

See, this is what I'm talking about. I explicitly said that I would not favor pictures of child molestation and you said I posted in favor of it. And I don't know what painting specifically you're referring to but "bastinado" doesn't mean sexual molestation or anything else sexual.

Orange_Circle ago

You say you don't favor the molestation "art" but your on this forum defending the painter, gays and trannys (your words) and calling 4channers "weird."

And I'm telling you right now that we aren't the weird ones. Y'all are.

whatonearth ago

Well that's kind of part of my point, I think it's valuable to have room for people who are weird and experimental as long as they aren't harming anyone (and yes of course I would include both child molestation and child porn as things that harm people). I have yet to see pizzagate present a single artwork that is both explicitly sexual and has children in it. The only examples anyone comes up with are ones where you have to believe a bunch of code words made up by some 4chan anon in order to "get" what the picture supposedly "really" depicts.

Also, I described people as queer or trans, I did not say gays or trannys.

Orange_Circle ago

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Paintings showing children in underwear with their buttocks showing red and their feet reddened, (Bastinado) with their hands tied behind their back IS showing children in an explicitly sexual situation.

Images from the house band at Comet Ping Pong with images of a young boy naked, tied to a table with blood on his buttocks is sexualizing children AND torture.

Alefantis posting pics of children (the baby with it's mouth open in a big "O") and captioning it Hotard is pedophilia-ish. His image of the toddler boy at the beach appearing to grab the buttocks of the man in the speedo and the comments WAS sexualizing a child.

You can deny it all you want to, but it wasn't "weirdos" on 4chan finding that filth that makes it weird. The shame of that belongs to the people who POSTED it.