Marina!,
What place do you see the occult having within contemporary art; can magick be made (not simply appropriated/ performed)?
Thanks, K
"Everything depends on which context you are doing what you are doing. If you are doing the occult magic in the context of art or in a gallery, then it is the art. If you are doing it in different context, in spiritual circles or private house or on TV shows, it is not art. The intention, the context for what is made, and where it is made defines what art is or not."
Marina Abramović is a practicing occultist involved in the supernatural, the paranormal, supernaturalism, magic, black magic, witchcraft, sorcery, necromancy, wizardry, the black arts,, diabolism, devil worship, devilry, voodoo, hoodoo, white magic, witchery, mysticism.
The intention, the context for what is made, and where it is made defines what art is or not.
I think this is key. She's talking about what defines art or not. So she's saying that if you do the same performance at an art exhibit and then in a private house, it's art in the art exhibit and not in the private house. That does not necessarily mean, however, that Spirit Cooking in a private home (most recipes which have nothing to do with blood, semen, breast milk, or anything like that btw), is necessarily done for literal human sacrifice or anything like that. For instance, you could file it under entertainment. You could file it under spirituality as she mentioned. You could file it under education. It depends on who is doing it and why.
And still, you have not dealt with any of the evidence I have presented. Spirit Cooking is not just the one recipe that you saw the Youtube video of. Are you ever going to attempt to deal with that?
Yes, if you have the proper evidence that this was the recipe they were using and had evidence of the context on why they were doing it. You don't have that evidence, though. And quit trying to distract from the actual information by talking about my "tone".
The question is: are you ever going to deal with the Spirit Cooking video?
I knew about the Spirit Cooking video months ago and watched it in full multiple times.
her contribution to pizzagate was she was mentioned in the wiki leaks of john podesta. She was a minor player but once the investigation uncovered spirit cooking (canabilism) a barrage of questions came forward. Why are the political elite supporting a controversial artist that offends so many of the constituents? Why is john podesta fascinated with canibalism? One thing led to another and the whole pizzagate has been unfolding....If not for abromavich we would never have known about pizzagate. On a side note where there is smoke there is fire and she descends from a geneology of witches pedofiles and blood drinkers.
She is wealthy and is valued by the political elite. I will add the link in a sec.
Also remember the pic of alefantis and podesta at their birthday of a baby penis.
I will dig that one up too if you have not seen it...it ties back to cooking and eating humans, in other words spirit cooking. Let's all thank abrimavich for helping to expose the pizzagate cover up!
It's not true to say that if not for Abramovic we wouldn't have known about #PizzaGate. #PizzaGate started because of the Podesta emails that included different foods that looked like a pedophile code. It didn't originally have anything to do with Satanism.
Why are you trying to limit the scope of pizzagate first to pedofilia and then say that spirit cooking is not part of the scope of pizzagate? This is a tactic used by defense attorney and media to steer public opinion. Pizzagate is an evolving and growing investigation. No one has defined pizzagate to pedofilia. Please provide a source that say pizzagate is only specifically about pedofilia code words. In fact I would say that is what fake news does and that is how hey say they debunk it. You remind me of Megan Kelly. But you will not be allowed to spew your garbage and false fallacies here. I have gone to the trouble to include the original email of spirit cooking and yes it started with abromavich and code words, and alefantis and ping pong and now it is known to be a global ring of political leaders . We see through your word games and nonsense, people here are awake to those tactics that have worked in the past to unsuspecting people. Go back in your lair and report back to your coven that you failed you are unconvincing and full of lies. Abromavich will be continued to be investigated. Ask her for mercy you will get no mercy here shame on you.
Subject: Dinner Dear Tony, I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining? All my love, Marina -- ABRAMOVIC LLC
Why don't you stop with the straw man attacks? They are getting old. I'm simply trying to get down to the truth. Also, please state one lie (knowingly telling a falsehood) that I've said.
you don't know any other tricks do you? Your word games are weak. I am still waiting for the proof that pizzagate is limited to code words. Let me know when you can supply that. That was your premise wasn't it?Your lie: that pizzagate is not limited to code words, therefore spirit cooking is not pizzagate. You start with a false statement to prove a false statement. I call a spade a spade. A lie is a lie, nothing will make it true whether you state it knowingly or not. The mental gymnastics that you evil people play in order to avoid a sense of responsibility for your actions shame on you. Right and wrong are simple and clear cut you can make all the excuses and false fallacies to try to avoid responsibility and moral shame but it is what it is.
Pizzagate includes spirit cooking and it includes canabilism and pedofilia and blackmail and trafficking. And organ harvesting. And you dare say the investigation has made conclusions and finished connecting dots? You have given everyone here an understanding of the loops these evil perpetrators jump through to justify themselves publicly. I have often wondered how they can live with them selves doing what they do, but you have shown us how it is done. Simply by compartmentalizjng it and lieing so many times eventually you start believeing it. I have a question Did you help Megan Kelly prepare for her interview of alefantis?
Stop with the damage control shit and join some pedo file forum or go join some filthy semen and blood drinking baby penis eating group go back to huff post or better yet CNN would love you. No one believes you here. Knowing or unknowing stating a lie is a lie even if you call it by any other name. Lie is a lie and as long as you try to mislead investigators and play smoke and mirrors: it remains a lie misleading people and creating doubt for no other purpose but to let the guilty avoid justice, well we can see your true colors and where your priorities lie.
I didn't say #PizzaGate is limited to code words. I said that's where it all started. You have convinced yourself that I'm anti-#PizzaGate investigation just because I'm sometimes critical. That could not be further from the truth. I am a part of the #PizzaGate investigation, which sometimes includes debunking misinformation, or exposing information that is being interpreted wrongly by my estimation. I've also gathered #PizzaGate investigators, caught them up to speed, and let them spread their wings in their own ways. I've been a part of this for months, so it gets a little tiresome when people like you try to talk to people like me as if we are anti-#PizzaGate. You keep saying I'm lying, but I have not lied once, and you cannot give me of one example of when I lied. And if you're going to try to insult me by asking if I helped "Megan Kelly" prepare, at least spell Megyn Kelly's name correctly. You know, any investigation should be able to stand up to criticism. Many here have no problem with criticism, but you clearly do. That tells me you are a nobody, and you have no value here.
I purposely spelled that nasty woman's name wrong and yes I am nobody too. You are arguing with a nobody and you cannot convince even a nobody that abromavich the poor woman only valued 10 mil is not part of pizzagate. You have debunked nothing to even a nobody. Your insults make my day. You must be a somebody....oh wow impressive. A real mover and shaker in the pizzagate world.
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think_whatif ago
From the Marina Abramović AMA at Reddit:
Marina!, What place do you see the occult having within contemporary art; can magick be made (not simply appropriated/ performed)? Thanks, K
"Everything depends on which context you are doing what you are doing. If you are doing the occult magic in the context of art or in a gallery, then it is the art. If you are doing it in different context, in spiritual circles or private house or on TV shows, it is not art. The intention, the context for what is made, and where it is made defines what art is or not."
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1jctbp/i_am_performance_artist_marina_abramovic_ask_me/cbdebyl/?st=ix0r5914&sh=47d12799
Marina Abramović is a practicing occultist involved in the supernatural, the paranormal, supernaturalism, magic, black magic, witchcraft, sorcery, necromancy, wizardry, the black arts,, diabolism, devil worship, devilry, voodoo, hoodoo, white magic, witchery, mysticism.
atheist4thecause ago
I think this is key. She's talking about what defines art or not. So she's saying that if you do the same performance at an art exhibit and then in a private house, it's art in the art exhibit and not in the private house. That does not necessarily mean, however, that Spirit Cooking in a private home (most recipes which have nothing to do with blood, semen, breast milk, or anything like that btw), is necessarily done for literal human sacrifice or anything like that. For instance, you could file it under entertainment. You could file it under spirituality as she mentioned. You could file it under education. It depends on who is doing it and why.
And still, you have not dealt with any of the evidence I have presented. Spirit Cooking is not just the one recipe that you saw the Youtube video of. Are you ever going to attempt to deal with that?
think_whatif ago
"For instance, you could file it under entertainment."
Or I could file in under occult or satanic practices.
Your tone is condescending.
The question is: are you ever going to deal with the Spirit Cooking video?
atheist4thecause ago
Yes, if you have the proper evidence that this was the recipe they were using and had evidence of the context on why they were doing it. You don't have that evidence, though. And quit trying to distract from the actual information by talking about my "tone".
I knew about the Spirit Cooking video months ago and watched it in full multiple times.
Forgetmenot ago
Are you a fan of her spirit cooking? If so then you are biased and you would not be objective in your investigation.
atheist4thecause ago
No. I had never seen her art in my life and knew nothing about her before #PizzaGate.
Forgetmenot ago
her contribution to pizzagate was she was mentioned in the wiki leaks of john podesta. She was a minor player but once the investigation uncovered spirit cooking (canabilism) a barrage of questions came forward. Why are the political elite supporting a controversial artist that offends so many of the constituents? Why is john podesta fascinated with canibalism? One thing led to another and the whole pizzagate has been unfolding....If not for abromavich we would never have known about pizzagate. On a side note where there is smoke there is fire and she descends from a geneology of witches pedofiles and blood drinkers. She is wealthy and is valued by the political elite. I will add the link in a sec. Also remember the pic of alefantis and podesta at their birthday of a baby penis. I will dig that one up too if you have not seen it...it ties back to cooking and eating humans, in other words spirit cooking. Let's all thank abrimavich for helping to expose the pizzagate cover up!
atheist4thecause ago
It's not true to say that if not for Abramovic we wouldn't have known about #PizzaGate. #PizzaGate started because of the Podesta emails that included different foods that looked like a pedophile code. It didn't originally have anything to do with Satanism.
Forgetmenot ago
Why are you trying to limit the scope of pizzagate first to pedofilia and then say that spirit cooking is not part of the scope of pizzagate? This is a tactic used by defense attorney and media to steer public opinion. Pizzagate is an evolving and growing investigation. No one has defined pizzagate to pedofilia. Please provide a source that say pizzagate is only specifically about pedofilia code words. In fact I would say that is what fake news does and that is how hey say they debunk it. You remind me of Megan Kelly. But you will not be allowed to spew your garbage and false fallacies here. I have gone to the trouble to include the original email of spirit cooking and yes it started with abromavich and code words, and alefantis and ping pong and now it is known to be a global ring of political leaders . We see through your word games and nonsense, people here are awake to those tactics that have worked in the past to unsuspecting people. Go back in your lair and report back to your coven that you failed you are unconvincing and full of lies. Abromavich will be continued to be investigated. Ask her for mercy you will get no mercy here shame on you.
Subject: Dinner Dear Tony, I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining? All my love, Marina -- ABRAMOVIC LLC
atheist4thecause ago
Why don't you stop with the straw man attacks? They are getting old. I'm simply trying to get down to the truth. Also, please state one lie (knowingly telling a falsehood) that I've said.
Forgetmenot ago
you don't know any other tricks do you? Your word games are weak. I am still waiting for the proof that pizzagate is limited to code words. Let me know when you can supply that. That was your premise wasn't it?Your lie: that pizzagate is not limited to code words, therefore spirit cooking is not pizzagate. You start with a false statement to prove a false statement. I call a spade a spade. A lie is a lie, nothing will make it true whether you state it knowingly or not. The mental gymnastics that you evil people play in order to avoid a sense of responsibility for your actions shame on you. Right and wrong are simple and clear cut you can make all the excuses and false fallacies to try to avoid responsibility and moral shame but it is what it is. Pizzagate includes spirit cooking and it includes canabilism and pedofilia and blackmail and trafficking. And organ harvesting. And you dare say the investigation has made conclusions and finished connecting dots? You have given everyone here an understanding of the loops these evil perpetrators jump through to justify themselves publicly. I have often wondered how they can live with them selves doing what they do, but you have shown us how it is done. Simply by compartmentalizjng it and lieing so many times eventually you start believeing it. I have a question Did you help Megan Kelly prepare for her interview of alefantis? Stop with the damage control shit and join some pedo file forum or go join some filthy semen and blood drinking baby penis eating group go back to huff post or better yet CNN would love you. No one believes you here. Knowing or unknowing stating a lie is a lie even if you call it by any other name. Lie is a lie and as long as you try to mislead investigators and play smoke and mirrors: it remains a lie misleading people and creating doubt for no other purpose but to let the guilty avoid justice, well we can see your true colors and where your priorities lie.
atheist4thecause ago
I didn't say #PizzaGate is limited to code words. I said that's where it all started. You have convinced yourself that I'm anti-#PizzaGate investigation just because I'm sometimes critical. That could not be further from the truth. I am a part of the #PizzaGate investigation, which sometimes includes debunking misinformation, or exposing information that is being interpreted wrongly by my estimation. I've also gathered #PizzaGate investigators, caught them up to speed, and let them spread their wings in their own ways. I've been a part of this for months, so it gets a little tiresome when people like you try to talk to people like me as if we are anti-#PizzaGate. You keep saying I'm lying, but I have not lied once, and you cannot give me of one example of when I lied. And if you're going to try to insult me by asking if I helped "Megan Kelly" prepare, at least spell Megyn Kelly's name correctly. You know, any investigation should be able to stand up to criticism. Many here have no problem with criticism, but you clearly do. That tells me you are a nobody, and you have no value here.
Forgetmenot ago
I purposely spelled that nasty woman's name wrong and yes I am nobody too. You are arguing with a nobody and you cannot convince even a nobody that abromavich the poor woman only valued 10 mil is not part of pizzagate. You have debunked nothing to even a nobody. Your insults make my day. You must be a somebody....oh wow impressive. A real mover and shaker in the pizzagate world.
atheist4thecause ago
I have no doubt that I cannot convince you of anything that you do not already agree with.