So 81 email chains contained classified info all the way to Top Secret at the time they were sent with 68 of them remaining classified to this day according to the warrant.
That was already known from the original 35000 emails released from the Clinton server, if I am not mistaken. I could be wrong about that but either way it wasn't significant, and unless that article 5 that was redacted in full has something interesting (I am sure it did) then nothing really significant happened.
Can anyone confirm that we already had these numbers? If not, I would totally consider this release relevant and news worthy. We all knew she was negligent, but this much seems shocking.
and some of the emails are SAP top secret (normally hosted on air-gapped systems which can only be viewed in a specially shielded room). This most certainly is news, but it's been around for awhile.
There's really nothing new from the warrant. It's basically restated what was already known to provide probable cause to seize/search the new emails.
We knew about the Top Secret SAP emails and we even know what was discussed on them back in June.
The emails were sent or fowarded to Hillary and they were sent from nonsecure government servers. That is to say, if a crime had been committed it would have gone well beyond Hillary. The private server is a separate issue in this case.
The "Top Secret" in question is something that is not actually very secret. It regards the CIA drone program which even though POTUS has talked about publicly still cannot be discussed by anyone at State. If the NY Times prints an article about a drone strike, you cannot attach that article to an email and say, "Hey, look at this." on a nonsecure government account like a @state.gov email address. You would have to move to the secure system.
The 22 emails with the highest classification were basically vague references about the drone program. This article is from June and confirmed reporting from Jan/Feb
At the center of a criminal probe involving Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified information is a series of emails between American diplomats in Islamabad and their superiors in Washington about whether to oppose specific drone strikes in Pakistan.
The 2011 and 2012 emails were sent via the “low side’’—government slang for a computer system for unclassified matters—as part of a secret arrangement that gave the State Department more of a voice in whether a Central Intelligence Agency drone strike went ahead, according to congressional and law-enforcement officials briefed on the Federal Bureau of Investigation probe.
The vaguely worded messages didn’t mention the “CIA,” “drones” or details about the militant targets, officials said.
The still-secret emails are a key part of the FBI investigation that has long dogged Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, these officials said.
The State Department protest to the intelligence community that they were often given only like 20-30 minutes to weigh in on a drone strike and if they used the most secure system, no would be able to read the email if they were out of the office, so it was take many hours to reply. What they did was to use the "low side" system, but be extremely vauge about what the emails were about.
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bdmthrfkr ago
The warrant was released yesterday, nothing (not redacted) was really in it.
Dead end.
Banned4Truth ago
This thread from another site says different http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1152685/pg1
bdmthrfkr ago
That was already known from the original 35000 emails released from the Clinton server, if I am not mistaken. I could be wrong about that but either way it wasn't significant, and unless that article 5 that was redacted in full has something interesting (I am sure it did) then nothing really significant happened.
Sorry.
ThruTheHaze ago
Can anyone confirm that we already had these numbers? If not, I would totally consider this release relevant and news worthy. We all knew she was negligent, but this much seems shocking.
bdmthrfkr ago
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/22-hillary-clinton-emails-declared-top-secret-218420
and some of the emails are SAP top secret (normally hosted on air-gapped systems which can only be viewed in a specially shielded room). This most certainly is news, but it's been around for awhile.
ThruTheHaze ago
Ok, so only a little more detail. Thanks for the link.
I think the real worth is keeping this info visible and relevant. They like to bury stuff like this.
AreWeSure ago
There's really nothing new from the warrant. It's basically restated what was already known to provide probable cause to seize/search the new emails.
We knew about the Top Secret SAP emails and we even know what was discussed on them back in June.
The emails were sent or fowarded to Hillary and they were sent from nonsecure government servers. That is to say, if a crime had been committed it would have gone well beyond Hillary. The private server is a separate issue in this case.
The "Top Secret" in question is something that is not actually very secret. It regards the CIA drone program which even though POTUS has talked about publicly still cannot be discussed by anyone at State. If the NY Times prints an article about a drone strike, you cannot attach that article to an email and say, "Hey, look at this." on a nonsecure government account like a @state.gov email address. You would have to move to the secure system.
The 22 emails with the highest classification were basically vague references about the drone program. This article is from June and confirmed reporting from Jan/Feb
The State Department protest to the intelligence community that they were often given only like 20-30 minutes to weigh in on a drone strike and if they used the most secure system, no would be able to read the email if they were out of the office, so it was take many hours to reply. What they did was to use the "low side" system, but be extremely vauge about what the emails were about.