I vote for minimals standards enforced by moderation . Because accounts can be built up and multiplied by people with less than good intentions, voting power becomes a weapon against us. The balance of power can only be restored by affective moderation to keep content submission within the framework of this subs intention / purpose.
Addressing 3.2
I vote for separate subs to be created, which address specific aspects of pizza gate. I would even be in favour of having something called pizza gate shitposts where anything goes . Shills can post all they want there. But the title makes it clear that nothing is to be taken seriously .
As to the content of the rules to be applied for moderation , I would suggest looking closely at the documents published regarding how Shills operate . This kind of destructive behaviour can be profiled and actively defended against.
For the moderation of the janitors you pick , you should consider how to manage complaints in a transparent and effective way . Shills will inevitably try to bog down the system by escalating every single moderated post. Between the principles of transparency objectivity and fairness, Focus on transparency because objectivity and fairness are still subject of concepts and you will never be able to create a process that is both lightweight and fulfills all three of these principles.
I work with quality control of IT requirements management , so I have quite a bit of experience of assessing text based on a predefined checklist. I am not sure if I would be willing to put myself on a limb and do janitor cleanup , but I agree that it is necessary and a step in the right direction
Addressing 3.1 I vote for minimals standards enforced by moderation . Because accounts can be built up and multiplied by people with less than good intentions, voting power becomes a weapon against us. The balance of power can only be restored by affective moderation to keep content submission within the framework of this subs intention / purpose.
I just want to add another reason for minimum standards: if we rely on downvotes alone, shills can easily destroy this forum by flooding it with shitposts (known as forum sliding). We have already experienced such attacks. This is why we need more janitors. Right now, there isn't always someone on duty watching pizzagate/new.
im here 18 hours a day. i would have loved to help janitor crap off this site. it's the main attack vector against voat right now. helping voat is what i do.
BUT you idiots modded v/protectvoat people, the literal sjw cabal that's taking over voat, to v/pizzagate, in effect, 100% compromising v/pizzagate.
i would never help the sjw cabal. i'd rather do meth and stick spikes up my bum then help those censoring fee-fee hurt safe-space-making faggoty nigger pieces of shit.
they have weaseled their way into the admins' ears, dividing them from the community
they code voat, but no announcement was ever made, and this truth is slid and censored by the cabal and the admins
they talk to the admins off voat, but pretend they don't.
they organize in iirc, and also run v/protectvoat to control the record, and v/soapboxbanhammer to upvoat farm their accounts (largely un-needed anymore).
you have literally just given one of their main operatives O access to your sub. you have fucked ALL of this royally.
just like the mafia guys are "concerned about da well being of a community."
what i mean is they talk to the admins off voat, but there's been no official mention of it
they code voat, but there's been no official mention of it
and they run major subs, janitor subs, run protectvoat sbbh and now pizzagate (among dozens of other subs; someone posted a list a while back on protectvoat)
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justanotherpizza ago
Adressing 3.1
I vote for minimals standards enforced by moderation . Because accounts can be built up and multiplied by people with less than good intentions, voting power becomes a weapon against us. The balance of power can only be restored by affective moderation to keep content submission within the framework of this subs intention / purpose.
Addressing 3.2
I vote for separate subs to be created, which address specific aspects of pizza gate. I would even be in favour of having something called pizza gate shitposts where anything goes . Shills can post all they want there. But the title makes it clear that nothing is to be taken seriously .
As to the content of the rules to be applied for moderation , I would suggest looking closely at the documents published regarding how Shills operate . This kind of destructive behaviour can be profiled and actively defended against.
For the moderation of the janitors you pick , you should consider how to manage complaints in a transparent and effective way . Shills will inevitably try to bog down the system by escalating every single moderated post. Between the principles of transparency objectivity and fairness, Focus on transparency because objectivity and fairness are still subject of concepts and you will never be able to create a process that is both lightweight and fulfills all three of these principles.
I work with quality control of IT requirements management , so I have quite a bit of experience of assessing text based on a predefined checklist. I am not sure if I would be willing to put myself on a limb and do janitor cleanup , but I agree that it is necessary and a step in the right direction
Millennial_Falcon ago
I just want to add another reason for minimum standards: if we rely on downvotes alone, shills can easily destroy this forum by flooding it with shitposts (known as forum sliding). We have already experienced such attacks. This is why we need more janitors. Right now, there isn't always someone on duty watching pizzagate/new.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
im here 18 hours a day. i would have loved to help janitor crap off this site. it's the main attack vector against voat right now. helping voat is what i do.
BUT you idiots modded v/protectvoat people, the literal sjw cabal that's taking over voat, to v/pizzagate, in effect, 100% compromising v/pizzagate.
i would never help the sjw cabal. i'd rather do meth and stick spikes up my bum then help those censoring fee-fee hurt safe-space-making faggoty nigger pieces of shit.
they have weaseled their way into the admins' ears, dividing them from the community
they code voat, but no announcement was ever made, and this truth is slid and censored by the cabal and the admins
they talk to the admins off voat, but pretend they don't.
they organize in iirc, and also run v/protectvoat to control the record, and v/soapboxbanhammer to upvoat farm their accounts (largely un-needed anymore).
you have literally just given one of their main operatives O access to your sub. you have fucked ALL of this royally.
mark my mother fucking words.
Millennial_Falcon ago
What exactly do you mean by "sjw cabal"? In my interactions with kevdude, he just seems very concerned about censorship.
Mickgoestojail ago
Sanegoat is a basket case. If you upset him you will be the sjw cabal as well.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
just like the mafia guys are "concerned about da well being of a community."
what i mean is they talk to the admins off voat, but there's been no official mention of it
they code voat, but there's been no official mention of it
and they run major subs, janitor subs, run protectvoat sbbh and now pizzagate (among dozens of other subs; someone posted a list a while back on protectvoat)