Shills will take advantage of whatever weakness they can. If I may suggest: users that have contributed actual content should be able to request for deletion. There are some usernames out there that are requesting for deletion that have never contributed to the conversation. Their only contribution is requesting for deletion. It will help keep the shills from taking advantage .
@kevdude this user had issues with the removal of a post specifically about a lawyer's response to a warrant to search Weiner's laptop. I'll say it again; about the lawyer's response.
If this user had his/her way, articles about what Weiner ate for breakfast would be viable because he's linked to PG.
I actually have made no secret that i thought the post was valuable to pizzagate. I never said anything about Anthony wiener breakfast. I also asked cresch to please explain his reasons. He then said I must be from Reddit. We have had a very odd dialogue for the past 15 minutes. On my end I actually came over her to read the rules.
I actually have made no secret that i thought the post was valuable to pizzagate.
Never said you did.
I never said anything about Anthony wiener breakfast.
Sometimes people give examples of what absurdity would happen if your stupid ideas were to be implemented.
I also asked cresch to please explain his reasons. He then said I must be from Reddit.
You asked on two separate occasions if I was a mod instead of simply scrolling down to look at the mod list him/herself. You also suggested that I behaved like a shill after pointing out that a lawyer's reaction to a warrant has fuck-all to do with the investigation.
We have had a very odd dialogue for the past 15 minutes.
I'm not sure if you are stupid, or paid to post as you do.
On my end I actually came over her to read the rules.
Read rules, but couldn't read the modlist, modlog, or my history after hand-waving to your own 13-day history as some kind of social proof that you aren't here in bad faith.
Also I apologize but I am jumping between screens. Communication is very helpful! Just introduce yourself as a mod. It would clear so much, I thought you were some random user who had a bone to pick with me for a difference of opinion. Instead I had to go and try to learn the latest shill tactic. And reach out to mods about my concerns. Meanwhile had I known you were a mod I would have understood your reaching out to me. For the record I asked you point blank if you were a mod. I had to dig it up on my own. I am not a shill. Maybe I am not computer savvy or voat savvy but I am not a shill.
My status as a mod should have no bearing on the veracity of my words.
Please tell me how a lawyer's reaction to a warrant does anything but clutter up this space. You mentioned some outrage or appeal to those that don't know about PG, but you're posting this in the PG subverse. Everyone here knows about this stuff, and even if they don't, some lawyer's fit over a warrant is not useful information, it's not unexpected, and the target of the warrant being Weiner's laptop doesn't automatically make it pizzagate related, in the sense that it's useful information for this subverse.
"Pizza guy outraged about pizzagate hurting his pizzaprofits!" "Lawyer expresses outrage in defense of client" "Hey guys, there's a SPIRAL here on a pizza place wall!" "Male Actor #4 claims pizzagate is a bunch of lies"
That's the kind of utter crap your post fits in with.
I can't anymore, delete any post you like because it violates the rules of not citing a source. Or because you don't like the content. Heck ban my useless account too. Cut and paste posts screaming for mods to delete with out any explanation are going to create conflict and confusion. An easier method is to Simply introduce your self as a janitor and a request to delete and repost properly. Cut and paste the new rules for that matter. I am tired of this conversation, you win. I just care about the kids and don't mind sorting through information to help, most of it is useless sometimes you hit paydirt. It's how investigations work. Rules are objective and that is understandable and easy to comply with. deleting something because you think it is useless is subject to your opinion and there will be disagreement. And now we see how the disagreement is dealt with : deletion.
Are you talking about the lawyer reaction to wiener search warrant? The few posts I have submitted have not been much. I only learned the new rules this morning. Not sure when they were posted but i have a new account. Feel free to delete my posts, one was even a question for expertise.
You defended it as if you did. Remember when you were accusing me of being an alt of the person calling it out for rule violations? I did the same to you for OP, since it's easier to believe you wrote it and then defended it on a sock-puppet account than it is for me to have been the guy calling it out while having a mod account.
Listen I am really over the whole thing. I would like to chalk it up to a misunderstanding. Voat is not very welcoming to noobs (which I am) and honestly our interaction was very unpleasant. As it is the subject matter of pizzagate is really horrible too. I thought you were a shill. You thought I was a shill. I would like to just focus on pizzagate and help if possible even in a small way. Censorship and deleting threads can be controversial.
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Forgetmenot ago
Shills will take advantage of whatever weakness they can. If I may suggest: users that have contributed actual content should be able to request for deletion. There are some usernames out there that are requesting for deletion that have never contributed to the conversation. Their only contribution is requesting for deletion. It will help keep the shills from taking advantage .
Crensch ago
@kevdude this user had issues with the removal of a post specifically about a lawyer's response to a warrant to search Weiner's laptop. I'll say it again; about the lawyer's response.
If this user had his/her way, articles about what Weiner ate for breakfast would be viable because he's linked to PG.
Forgetmenot ago
I actually have made no secret that i thought the post was valuable to pizzagate. I never said anything about Anthony wiener breakfast. I also asked cresch to please explain his reasons. He then said I must be from Reddit. We have had a very odd dialogue for the past 15 minutes. On my end I actually came over her to read the rules.
Crensch ago
Never said you did.
Sometimes people give examples of what absurdity would happen if your stupid ideas were to be implemented.
You asked on two separate occasions if I was a mod instead of simply scrolling down to look at the mod list him/herself. You also suggested that I behaved like a shill after pointing out that a lawyer's reaction to a warrant has fuck-all to do with the investigation.
I'm not sure if you are stupid, or paid to post as you do.
Read rules, but couldn't read the modlist, modlog, or my history after hand-waving to your own 13-day history as some kind of social proof that you aren't here in bad faith.
Forgetmenot ago
Also I apologize but I am jumping between screens. Communication is very helpful! Just introduce yourself as a mod. It would clear so much, I thought you were some random user who had a bone to pick with me for a difference of opinion. Instead I had to go and try to learn the latest shill tactic. And reach out to mods about my concerns. Meanwhile had I known you were a mod I would have understood your reaching out to me. For the record I asked you point blank if you were a mod. I had to dig it up on my own. I am not a shill. Maybe I am not computer savvy or voat savvy but I am not a shill.
Crensch ago
My status as a mod should have no bearing on the veracity of my words.
Please tell me how a lawyer's reaction to a warrant does anything but clutter up this space. You mentioned some outrage or appeal to those that don't know about PG, but you're posting this in the PG subverse. Everyone here knows about this stuff, and even if they don't, some lawyer's fit over a warrant is not useful information, it's not unexpected, and the target of the warrant being Weiner's laptop doesn't automatically make it pizzagate related, in the sense that it's useful information for this subverse.
"Pizza guy outraged about pizzagate hurting his pizzaprofits!" "Lawyer expresses outrage in defense of client" "Hey guys, there's a SPIRAL here on a pizza place wall!" "Male Actor #4 claims pizzagate is a bunch of lies"
That's the kind of utter crap your post fits in with.
Forgetmenot ago
I can't anymore, delete any post you like because it violates the rules of not citing a source. Or because you don't like the content. Heck ban my useless account too. Cut and paste posts screaming for mods to delete with out any explanation are going to create conflict and confusion. An easier method is to Simply introduce your self as a janitor and a request to delete and repost properly. Cut and paste the new rules for that matter. I am tired of this conversation, you win. I just care about the kids and don't mind sorting through information to help, most of it is useless sometimes you hit paydirt. It's how investigations work. Rules are objective and that is understandable and easy to comply with. deleting something because you think it is useless is subject to your opinion and there will be disagreement. And now we see how the disagreement is dealt with : deletion.
Crensch ago
Tell me your post was not objectively in violation of rule 2.
Forgetmenot ago
Do you mean my reply that I wrote you right now?
Crensch ago
No, your pet post that you were defending.
Forgetmenot ago
Are you talking about the lawyer reaction to wiener search warrant? The few posts I have submitted have not been much. I only learned the new rules this morning. Not sure when they were posted but i have a new account. Feel free to delete my posts, one was even a question for expertise.
Crensch ago
Yeah. That's what started every bit of this.
Forgetmenot ago
I did not post that thread.
Crensch ago
You defended it as if you did. Remember when you were accusing me of being an alt of the person calling it out for rule violations? I did the same to you for OP, since it's easier to believe you wrote it and then defended it on a sock-puppet account than it is for me to have been the guy calling it out while having a mod account.
Forgetmenot ago
Listen I am really over the whole thing. I would like to chalk it up to a misunderstanding. Voat is not very welcoming to noobs (which I am) and honestly our interaction was very unpleasant. As it is the subject matter of pizzagate is really horrible too. I thought you were a shill. You thought I was a shill. I would like to just focus on pizzagate and help if possible even in a small way. Censorship and deleting threads can be controversial.
Forgetmenot ago
That was not my post. I am not defending a post. I am talking about deleting threads without explanation
Crensch ago
The explanations are in the modlog regardless. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/modlog/submission