Does anyone care that mindshare is dropping?
Does anyone want to discuss this, or do something about it?
Mindshare matters.
Memes are vital. Please visit /v/pizzagatememes to help raise awareness.
The rules here are geared towards citizen investigation, which is great. But what is our main objective? If we want the deranged sickos to be brought to justice, the public must be informed. It matters not only for juries, but for the standard in law called the "reasonable person standard". We need bring this to the forefront of public consciousness.
As it stands right now, we are failing at that. Change is needed.
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SIMONBARROW ago
Unless Wikileaks releases more relevant Podesta emails, I don't see how interest can do anything but flag. After all, there's not going to be an official investigation (as far as we know).
belphegorsprime ago
Public pressure matters. I think if everyone is talking about this, it will be hard for politicians and a new justice department to ignore.
SIMONBARROW ago
I disagree totally. Politicians and the legal system are very experienced in ignoring public pressure and, in fact, seem to be getting better and better at it. You just have to look at, say, the fact that the assassination of Princess Diana still hasn't been properly investigated to see this. These days they would just dismiss 'Diana conspiracy' rumours as fake news.
belphegorsprime ago
I don't know much about Princess Diana conspiracy theories. It sounds obscure to me, although I know to others, it probably doesn't. But consider, this is exactly the point I'm making. We need to be aware of disinfo campaigns and be proactive about them. We also need to focus on the streisand effect.
If you think it's not worth trying, then I have to ask, why bother collecting evidence? If the legal system is going to just ignore it, why spend the effort? Whether you like it or not, public pressure matters. Princess Diana conspiracy theories may not have been successful for that very reason.
SIMONBARROW ago
Well, I've expressed my view. Not only does public opinion no longer have an impact on the conduct of politicians and people in the criminal justice system, they are growing more and more determined to resist it. (After all, the more crimes they commit, the more they have to hide.) I think anything that enlightens us as to the truth is worth pursuing regardless of whether or not it leads to any legal action.
If you don't know anything about the Diana assassination (which surprises me greatly), then just replace it with JFK or 9-11.
belphegorsprime ago
If you are trying to convince me that government conspiracies have occurred at the highest levels, and been successfully covered up by a complicit media and a misinformed, apathetic populace, you are wasting your time. I already have no doubt that this is true.
If you are trying to convince me that nothing can be done, and that real change cannot happen, I suggest you pick up a history book. They are filled with movements of self organized change, catalyzed by gross injustice, and enabled by collective awareness. Also, if you don't think it's important to get the word out, why are you here? Pizzagate is not going to be some exclusive club of insiders that know the real scoop. It is going to expose monumental corruption.