lol I know right,,, I'd be so interested to hear how this is playing in NK.
Then again when Pizzagate broke I kept thinking the lads in Iran must've been so happy. 'See we told you America was the great satan' lol
on a side note: I'm the son of a US diplomat so went to international schools most of my life. I remember when I was at frankfurt international school we had a big contingent of Koreans. I was one of the few non korean's that used to talk to any of them and I was alway's curious at how there seemed to be two groups of korean kids who wouldn't talk to each other. Wasn't until I was out of school I realized that Kim Jong Un actually went to the international school in switzerland [we used to have basketball tournaments there/or they visited us] and after talking to old classmates learned that Kim's current personal body guards went to our school [Frankfurt].
See my post here in this thread on this subject. North Korea is so bad that its leaders must know that it still pales in comparison to what that country does.
i'm pretty sure the commenter firmly had his tounge in his cheek with that one.
I'm not gonna argue your point but I'm curious as to where you get your views? as you can see from my post you've replied to I have direct ties to people who happen to be a part of the north korean power structure at the moment.
I also have quiet a few friends who went to the same international school as Kim Jong Un at the same time as he did. While this doesn't give me any reason to discount your views it certainly has opened my eyes to the strange contradiction as I am now aware that many if not most of the people at the top of the power structure of NK had the same 'high school' education as myself and most of the children of the worlds diplomats and industry leaders had.
Like I said I'm not arguing with you, just sharing an interesting fact that many may not realize [though it totally explains to me Kim's love of basketball amongst other things]. This realization has made me more hesitant and cynical when it comes to information on NK [or anywhere] that we get from western media sources [which happen to do the whole propaganda thing with waaay more refinement and subtlety]
I did read your post, and remember when successors to Kim Jong Il were talked about, Kim Jong Un's Western education was brought up. But consider, if having a good Western education means that much, then why is this pizzagate investigation going on? Why suspect the elite class who are native Westerners of trafficking in children to exploit them sexually, and possibly to kill at least some? Outside of pizzagate, Western educations often haven't stopped radical Islamists from joining al Qaeda and ISIS, or certainly from being part of repressive Islamic states, like Saudi Arabia. As you mention, too, the Koreans largely kept to themselves. Students from other countries with different values may not have those values really challenged if they stay isolated to themselves. On North Korea, I've kept up with things going on there for years. There is simply too much verifiable evidence for this to be false information by Western governments, who have been more apt to ignore it as much as possible than anything else over the decades. What has typically made headlines are the concerns about North Korea's nuclear program.
no no,, totally agree. In fact it's made me look back at my education and the people I shared it with and ask a lot of questions. It's why I'm on here trying to help expose Pizzagate. And like I said I don't disagree,, NK is pretty shit! I also think we're in a much better position 'in the west' given the current mood to recognize the fact that the masses are viewed as the chattle of the ruling classes. Up until know it's been difficult for people like me to try and convince the 'average joe' of that fact. Thank god for Pizzagate,, we might just be on the verge of sorting this sht out. :) we can start thinking about helping NK sort their shit as soon as we've cleaned house and actually do have the moral high ground!!
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goatboy ago
Wow, TIL the North really is the best Korea.
DeckoGecko ago
lol I know right,,, I'd be so interested to hear how this is playing in NK.
Then again when Pizzagate broke I kept thinking the lads in Iran must've been so happy. 'See we told you America was the great satan' lol
on a side note: I'm the son of a US diplomat so went to international schools most of my life. I remember when I was at frankfurt international school we had a big contingent of Koreans. I was one of the few non korean's that used to talk to any of them and I was alway's curious at how there seemed to be two groups of korean kids who wouldn't talk to each other. Wasn't until I was out of school I realized that Kim Jong Un actually went to the international school in switzerland [we used to have basketball tournaments there/or they visited us] and after talking to old classmates learned that Kim's current personal body guards went to our school [Frankfurt].
Psalm100 ago
See my post here in this thread on this subject. North Korea is so bad that its leaders must know that it still pales in comparison to what that country does.
DeckoGecko ago
i'm pretty sure the commenter firmly had his tounge in his cheek with that one.
I'm not gonna argue your point but I'm curious as to where you get your views? as you can see from my post you've replied to I have direct ties to people who happen to be a part of the north korean power structure at the moment.
I also have quiet a few friends who went to the same international school as Kim Jong Un at the same time as he did. While this doesn't give me any reason to discount your views it certainly has opened my eyes to the strange contradiction as I am now aware that many if not most of the people at the top of the power structure of NK had the same 'high school' education as myself and most of the children of the worlds diplomats and industry leaders had.
Like I said I'm not arguing with you, just sharing an interesting fact that many may not realize [though it totally explains to me Kim's love of basketball amongst other things]. This realization has made me more hesitant and cynical when it comes to information on NK [or anywhere] that we get from western media sources [which happen to do the whole propaganda thing with waaay more refinement and subtlety]
Psalm100 ago
I did read your post, and remember when successors to Kim Jong Il were talked about, Kim Jong Un's Western education was brought up. But consider, if having a good Western education means that much, then why is this pizzagate investigation going on? Why suspect the elite class who are native Westerners of trafficking in children to exploit them sexually, and possibly to kill at least some? Outside of pizzagate, Western educations often haven't stopped radical Islamists from joining al Qaeda and ISIS, or certainly from being part of repressive Islamic states, like Saudi Arabia. As you mention, too, the Koreans largely kept to themselves. Students from other countries with different values may not have those values really challenged if they stay isolated to themselves. On North Korea, I've kept up with things going on there for years. There is simply too much verifiable evidence for this to be false information by Western governments, who have been more apt to ignore it as much as possible than anything else over the decades. What has typically made headlines are the concerns about North Korea's nuclear program.
DeckoGecko ago
no no,, totally agree. In fact it's made me look back at my education and the people I shared it with and ask a lot of questions. It's why I'm on here trying to help expose Pizzagate. And like I said I don't disagree,, NK is pretty shit! I also think we're in a much better position 'in the west' given the current mood to recognize the fact that the masses are viewed as the chattle of the ruling classes. Up until know it's been difficult for people like me to try and convince the 'average joe' of that fact. Thank god for Pizzagate,, we might just be on the verge of sorting this sht out. :) we can start thinking about helping NK sort their shit as soon as we've cleaned house and actually do have the moral high ground!!