No, no isn't! Please don't say that. It is nowhere near true. Do some in-depth research on the situation in North Korea if you never have and you'll see that. It is virtually like Nazi Germany with the concentration camps operating, but the world has looked away from the horrible abuses for decades. For most people there, it is a hell on earth, where they are worth less than dogs.
When Kim Jong Il died recently, people were required to mourn in public, and those who didn't act distraught enough in public were taken away to prison camps. The Kims are considered to be actual gods in North Korea. People are regularly arrested like that for no legitimate reason at all and either killed outright or put in prison or prison camp - in part to supply slave labor for the government, and in part due to power struggles and for the sake of keeping the population in fear. In this prison system they are tortured, starved, worked to death, and often executed. North Korea is very poor, with the people facing starvation frequently, yet just trying to trade something for a little food can result in years in prison in those Auschwitz-like conditions. Trading a blanket for some food is considered a treasonous capitalist act and counter-revolutionary, and is an accusation against the "dear Leaders" - the Kims - and the government that they aren't taking good enough care of you.
Western spy satellites have shown these prison complexes to be huge, with one the size of Washington, D.C. North Korea also punishes three generations of its political "criminals" in order to eradicate whole families. So if one person is arrested the rest of the family is too and placed in camps. Prison guards are corrupt and brutal, and are rewarded for killing prisoners.
Look up Eyes of the Tailless Animals, and the Aquariums of Pyongyang, and human rights in North Korea. Various refugees from North Korea have testified before Congress about the horrors they suffered there.
There are some possible reasons for why the world is ignoring North Korea's Holocaust situation, among the most likely that this isn't a European country, it's half-way around the world, and China is the powerful protector and ally of North Korea. North Korea couldn't exist without China's support, and it sits as a buffer between China and democratic South Korea, so it's very vital to China's interests. And despite being poor, it has nuclear weapons.
The world ignores NK because NK possesses deployable extinction weapons and a willingness to use them if provoked. Their nuke program is the least terrifying thing about NK.
Perhaps. But the atrocities and prison Holocaust have been going on for decades, going back to the Korean War, and have been ignored. And they are also a very small country, dependent on China, which protects them within the UN.
Do you want to know the secret to making a scary bioweapon? The secret is there is no secret. All one needs is to make a human model of an animal disease, which any sophomore bioengineering student could figure out.
Are you willing to die and watch everyone you've ever known die for the sake of North Korea's criminals?
I was responding to your comment saying that North Korea is better than the South. Do you still stand by that?
And why do you call these people criminals? Most aren't criminals at all, but they get the most brutal treatment. Where's your concern for the atrocities taking place in North Korea, which the UN has said are like Nazi Germany's?
The leaders of the North would also have plenty to lose themselves if it were to launch weapons of mass destruction. And sanctions have been leveled against them in the past without WMDs being deployed. China is their protector. Would China want North Korea killing off the entire American population, if what you claim is even remotely a possibility?
According to North Korean law they are criminals. It is not our job to re-write North Korea's laws. The sanctions of the past were not an existential threat to North Korea's existence. However, regime change in the North would likely result in deployment of their extinction weapons. Even if most deployment's fail, the cost would be in the hundreds of millions to several billion lives world wide- as well pacific and indian ocean trade would cease for several weeks or months. Then we'd have to worry about novel bioweapon spores floating around the stratosphere for several hundred years- randomly landing and starting up new pandemics every couple decades.
I don't see any point, then, in carrying on this conversation any further, since you've repeatedly now expressed the opinion that human atrocities don't matter if they're carried out according to a government's laws.
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goatboy ago
Wow, TIL the North really is the best Korea.
Psalm100 ago
No, no isn't! Please don't say that. It is nowhere near true. Do some in-depth research on the situation in North Korea if you never have and you'll see that. It is virtually like Nazi Germany with the concentration camps operating, but the world has looked away from the horrible abuses for decades. For most people there, it is a hell on earth, where they are worth less than dogs.
When Kim Jong Il died recently, people were required to mourn in public, and those who didn't act distraught enough in public were taken away to prison camps. The Kims are considered to be actual gods in North Korea. People are regularly arrested like that for no legitimate reason at all and either killed outright or put in prison or prison camp - in part to supply slave labor for the government, and in part due to power struggles and for the sake of keeping the population in fear. In this prison system they are tortured, starved, worked to death, and often executed. North Korea is very poor, with the people facing starvation frequently, yet just trying to trade something for a little food can result in years in prison in those Auschwitz-like conditions. Trading a blanket for some food is considered a treasonous capitalist act and counter-revolutionary, and is an accusation against the "dear Leaders" - the Kims - and the government that they aren't taking good enough care of you.
Western spy satellites have shown these prison complexes to be huge, with one the size of Washington, D.C. North Korea also punishes three generations of its political "criminals" in order to eradicate whole families. So if one person is arrested the rest of the family is too and placed in camps. Prison guards are corrupt and brutal, and are rewarded for killing prisoners.
Go to http://www.google.com/search?q=North+Korea+torture+drawings and click on Images.
Look up Eyes of the Tailless Animals, and the Aquariums of Pyongyang, and human rights in North Korea. Various refugees from North Korea have testified before Congress about the horrors they suffered there.
There are some possible reasons for why the world is ignoring North Korea's Holocaust situation, among the most likely that this isn't a European country, it's half-way around the world, and China is the powerful protector and ally of North Korea. North Korea couldn't exist without China's support, and it sits as a buffer between China and democratic South Korea, so it's very vital to China's interests. And despite being poor, it has nuclear weapons.
goatboy ago
The world ignores NK because NK possesses deployable extinction weapons and a willingness to use them if provoked. Their nuke program is the least terrifying thing about NK.
Psalm100 ago
Perhaps. But the atrocities and prison Holocaust have been going on for decades, going back to the Korean War, and have been ignored. And they are also a very small country, dependent on China, which protects them within the UN.
goatboy ago
Do you want to know the secret to making a scary bioweapon? The secret is there is no secret. All one needs is to make a human model of an animal disease, which any sophomore bioengineering student could figure out.
Are you willing to die and watch everyone you've ever known die for the sake of North Korea's criminals?
Psalm100 ago
I was responding to your comment saying that North Korea is better than the South. Do you still stand by that?
And why do you call these people criminals? Most aren't criminals at all, but they get the most brutal treatment. Where's your concern for the atrocities taking place in North Korea, which the UN has said are like Nazi Germany's?
The leaders of the North would also have plenty to lose themselves if it were to launch weapons of mass destruction. And sanctions have been leveled against them in the past without WMDs being deployed. China is their protector. Would China want North Korea killing off the entire American population, if what you claim is even remotely a possibility?
goatboy ago
According to North Korean law they are criminals. It is not our job to re-write North Korea's laws. The sanctions of the past were not an existential threat to North Korea's existence. However, regime change in the North would likely result in deployment of their extinction weapons. Even if most deployment's fail, the cost would be in the hundreds of millions to several billion lives world wide- as well pacific and indian ocean trade would cease for several weeks or months. Then we'd have to worry about novel bioweapon spores floating around the stratosphere for several hundred years- randomly landing and starting up new pandemics every couple decades.
Psalm100 ago
I don't see any point, then, in carrying on this conversation any further, since you've repeatedly now expressed the opinion that human atrocities don't matter if they're carried out according to a government's laws.
goatboy ago
Human Atrocities don't matter when intervening in them creates greater human atrocities.