A guy named Dan Deacon donated $500. If you look him up on youtube, you will find this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnXiXlF7olo
This video is for a song called True Thresh by Dan Deacon and was posted by DOMINO RECORDING CO.
Lots of pizza,pasta, ice cream references, a young boy with an older man, eye symbolism. I also feel like this is the type of music they would use to torture and brainwash people. The comments are very eerie.
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Spindle ago
Been to tons of this guy's concerts. Super silly, light-hearted, absurdist electronic music. At one show he had the crowd create a giant "tunnel archway" through the venue, a pair at a time, and by the end of the song there was a long winding human archway to run through. Lots of fun, lots of smiles, good times. Not at all like the now-infamous Heavy Breathing vid at CPP, which I feel is a more accurate view of the subculture we are uncovering.
Not a bad idea to check out the Comet GoFundMe, but pretty sure Dan Deacon's not involved in darker things. The view counts on this video and his others, as well as his overall massive success as an artist, most likely indicate his many fans aren't feeling tortured during listening. But please imagecap and archive the eerie comments you found -- I'm not seeing any as I scroll through.
Pizzagate709 ago
Every comment is about how the song made them super happy. Theres 2 sides to brainwashing. They beat you down with Majestic Ape and music of that sort, then play this style of music to make you feel happy. You then associate happiness with pizza.
whorsquini ago
He gave Comet $500. That's enough to put him on the suspicious list at the very least.
Spindle ago
Okay, please let me play devil's advocate. Imagine I am one of the unwashed masses who's never heard of this and you're trying to red-pill me on #pizzagate by showing me this video.
"I already associate pizza with happiness -- it's a delicious and widespread food. Wouldn't a brainwashing video need to make me associate something cruel/unusual with happiness to trick me into normalizing it?"
Pizzagate709 ago
Im not trying to red-pill anyone though. Im assuming everyone on this sub has at least done their basic research. This is just another potential piece of the bigger pie.
And pizza is cruel/unusual, if you understand it in the same context as the rest of us.
Spindle ago
So the "programming" or "brainwashing" is for only those who understand the codewords of human trafficking? What is the purpose of that?
Bottom line: pedophilic normative programming can't work on someone who has no conscious or subconscious understanding that the word "pizza" could have pedophilic implications. With your logic, "they" are trying to "brainwash" those who already use the codewords: the trafficking criminals, and those who are investigating the same criminals.
I'm trying to suggest that this currently is an example of confirmation bias casting shadows where they are not, so that you can consider focusing your investigative talents elsewhere. However, feel free to ignore my arguments and continue if you feel like I'm way off-base with my logic -- but as it stands this does not make sense as MKUltra-style brainwashing propaganda as presented, and without clear evidence, basic logical flow that can be explained to an objective outsider, or solid links to the pedo subculture it serves as disinformation. Anyone can innocently be pulled into the #fakenews narrative to help rescue a "hapless neighborhood pizza joint under attack;" even artists with quirky videos.
We can't be an echo chamber here -- dissenting points of view are useful to help vet the investigation. It's good to think about these things objectively so we aren't seeing pedo rings everywhere and harming our potential investigative capacity. Sometimes pizza is just a food -- in fact, it almost always is. That's why it's a good codeword to obscure trafficking activities.
Pizzagate709 ago
You are assuming i think they are trying to brainwash the masses. Im not. Im simply implying that this has all the signs of CIA torture. I dont think they post these videos online to brainwash the masses, i think they post them online for plausible deniability and easy access for anyone who wants to use them.
Headstart ago
For MK Ultra programming, or any media programming period, they don't care if the video doesn't mean anything to 99% of the people; as long as the targeted group that's been programmed / conditioned to identify with the symbols or words, their mission is accomplished.
Spindle ago
But pizza already has a positive meaning to nearly all people. If there were images or depictions of sexualized children next to images of pizza in this video, I would understand your quickness to assume sinister connotation here. Images of pizza (the food) by itself won't normalize people to pedophilia through visual programming since it has nothing to do with pedophilia on both a literal and abstract level. That's why it's used as a code word -- to obscure trafficking activities. You know it's a code word and are thus subjectively conflating it with pedophilia; whereas no one who has not discovered these code words would be able to do the same, even on a subconscious level. Pedophilic normalization programming can't occur in this situation. Using your logic, the "programming" here would just make people want to eat more pizza because it will make them feel happier.
Could this be a case of confirmation bias casting shadows where there aren't any?
Headstart ago
I think you're missing the point entirely.
I'm not talking about pedophilic normalization. I'm talking about programming abused children, where the victim is exposed to symbols, songs, visuals, or locations, that they associate with being abused or the abuser.
The video I'm talking about is this one: Dan Deacon - Feel The Lightning (Official Video) https://youtu.be/kK-1axSGkXcYouTube
And I am not speaking as someone pontificating, I am speaking as former victim. I have an eye for obscure, 'weird' things these people are into. Yes 'pizza' is used as a code word, one of the reasons being that anyone overhearing a conversation would only hear pizza being discussed, also so NSA filtering programs wont flag their conversations for pedophile keywords. There is no pizza in the video above.
Spindle ago
My reply to you was for the video in the OP, not this other video you just cited (hopefully my response makes much more sense to you with that made clear).
I've watched this other video and subjectively find that it is absurdist and fun. You've watched the video and have subjectively determined it is using distinct obscurities for programming abused children. Where are we in linking this to trafficking, James Alefantis, or CPP? All we've done is compared personal interpretations based on subjective experience. There is no actual evidence yet presented of asserting MKUltra-style mind control here and without a solid logical link it is akin to disinfo. Personal anecdotes are not evidence.
Instead of showing us all the little items in the video that can be interpreted in many different ways, perhaps your investigative talents could be used elsewhere? Even if you go through the video frame-by-frame and assert that there's a triangle that represents the Illuminati here and a room that was maybe used for abuse there -- you're just telling stories about a video you watched. You're interpreting through a lens and it just appears to be disinfo and helps discredit the source-based investigation that makes up the crux of this subverse.
Try and find links between the video's writer/director (Andrew Jeffrey Wright) and others identified in the declassified MKUltra docs. Show how Dan Deacon and Wright have been involved with James Alefantis and his venues in the past as close conspirators (much like we've seen with Heavy Breathing and other acts through Sasha Lord's bookings). Without evidence, you're asserting something you believe that can only be verified through your own subjective lens. Some people who have read MKUltra docs and recognize your argument will nod in agreement with you here because they want to believe -- but the fact stands that this is not useful to our investigation into #pizzagate without evidence, and it looks objectively like old conspiracy claptrap rather than the rigorous journalism we need.
Pizzagate709 ago
He gave $500 to the prime suspect of this investigation, posts pedo symbolism and very weird electronic music. Hes worth looking into.
Headstart ago
Not everything presented is going to be helpful to the investigation. In reality maybe less than 1% of anything posted will. That said, just because it means nothing to you, doesn't mean it holds no meaning, or is of no investigative value to someone else.
I wasn't showing anyone anything; I made observations that I felt were noteworthy. If you don't feel there is anything worthy of looking into Dan Deacon feel free to not look at the thread. I came in not knowing whether it was relevant to anything. I gathered my own observations and they're valuable to me, possibly valuable to others. If everyone stopped posting their observations, there would be no collaboration, and no new discoveries.
You're right, it's would be great to establish more links between these characters. But right now, I am making observations. You can ignore or reply to my observations. If later down the line connections are made between Dan Deacon or the director, and any Pizzagate characters it would be of obvious benefit.
You never know what a person knows; dismissing my observations as 'telling stories about a video' is short sighted. As someone who has been through it, it's often the details that reveal breakthroughs.