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JUNOAK ago

This is extremely tangential but 11 days ago I wrote this:

Yea, I think this article is right on about this whole thing. Also I think one thing that happens with conspiracy theories is that the claims and evidence rarely get MORE specific, instead the evidence remains shallow and simply the scope of it grows. Like if you were investigating a murder you would start to question people and come up with some hypotheses and then start to narrow them down with more evidence to figure out actually what happened. Instead with conspiracies the evidence rarely gets more specific it just leads to things that aren't related to it.

Like how this started about pedophilia among the DNC people. And then Marina Abramovic was mentioned so satanism was thrown in, and then people started looking into the pizza place and coming up with stuff about Alefantis, and then people started looking into the places AROUND the pizzeria. Also the number of people complicit in this is growing exponentially. At first it would have to be all the DNC people that were in those email lists, and now it's grown to basically all of the MSM has to be complicit and the cops and pretty much that whole block where the pizza place is.

Conspiracy theories grow wider not deeper

PizzaBurner0 ago

I'm wondering if greater specificity doesn't also come with less anonymity, and becomes dangerous. The only reason we can speculate about anything is because of our numbers and our anonymity. But to do research of more depth, I imagine it requires talking to people face to face, or putting your personal information out there.

IDK if you were around in the very beginning of this thing, but people were VERY afraid to look into this. /r/pizzagate's first post was about how to keep yourself safe while researching. I was just thinking a couple weeks back how grateful I was that this had hit mainstream simply because an edge of danger at being a part of this had lifted.

ich1baN ago

No i was not... I actually at first didn't believe Pizzagate... I jumped the fence so to say a few days ago when I decided to actually research it... which is why I have been a member for only 1 day so far here. I just learned about VOAT yesterday.

I've been posting on other sites but it felt as if those threads had gone stale and the most active place is here.

And I felt that we have a higher degree of safety versus people on Youtube who are posting videos of their face and voice. I think we're fine... the people they really care about are someone like Sean Hannity who can spread it to the millions and millions with a simple episode.

It's why Andrew Breitbart was murdered imo... he originally posted about pedophilia and Podesta in like 2006 or something. There is a link if you google it. Breitbart WAS the ORIGINAL truther on exposing the Pedo ring.

PizzaBurner0 ago

No doubt you're right, and welcome to this depressing side of the fence. Having been on this ride for a while, I've never felt more like Neo seeing the desert of the real world; ie - losing all faith in the institutions of government and "journalism." It's been surreal to watch enormous organizations respond to a community of people online simply asking questions. Calling it "news" even. Just surreal.

Anyway, to your point. I think another reason the conspiracy broadens is because part of the research needed to tie any specific person to human trafficking requires research into human trafficking. That is hard research to do. When the Alefantis instagram pics were exposed at the same time as exposure was being given for The Franklin Coverup or Cathy O'Brian's accounts (true or not), and Kim Noble's art (which is not connected to pizzagate besides in the context of sex crimes against children) I found myself in tears. I'll read the research of those doing gods work, but I'm not digging into child trafficking more than I need to to understand how it connects to powerful institutions and people in society. No, honestly, hardly even that much. I'm not proud.