Please hear me out before judging my point of view. I will start by saying that what they are doing is completely and utterly wrong and they must be brought to justice.
My point is that although these people are causing so much negativity in this world with their actions we shouldn't be so quick to add to that negativity with our reactions. We do know what they are doing but we don't fully understand why they are doing it. It could be because they faced some of the same abuses as children themselves. It could be because they too grew up in a system trying to break them down and deceive them from the truth. It could be something to do with their brain chemistry that makes them sick and perverted, or emotionless psychopaths.
Whatever the case may be we need to handle the situation as peacefully as we can. If you were doing these horrible things and everyone was calling for your head on a platter would you be willing to go peacefully or would you try to fight it with all of the power that you had at your disposal? We know that our prison system as it is doesn't rehabilitate troubled people but only exasperates their problems. These people do need to be locked away from society but we can make their incarceration a more healing process than a condemning one.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link and these people are some of the weakest links if not the absolute weakest in our chain of society. If these people are sick and troubled then we are all sick and troubled and the only way to get better is to take care of each and every person as best as we can, including those involved in pizzagate.
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stunknife ago
my left fist is named compassion, and my right fist is named empathy
kwsfww ago
Why not try locking these people up in a safe in healthy environment where they are unable to cause more damage to our society? Then we can get them to a point where they feel like they can share with us what was going in their minds. We can find out from the source what their life was like to lead them down the path they ended up walking. Why do we have to be violent with these people? Maybe they were abused when they were younger and they have the same mentality as you. Maybe they feel like they need to take back what was taken from them.
stunknife ago
are you implying that I'm a child rapist/cannibal? Oh yes let's keep them in a nice healthy environment with WiFi where they can all be eating 5 star meals. Their "path" was created by their parents, and their parents path was created by THEIR parents. These people have legitimate bloodlines that follow these traditions. Obviously they were abused, but they chose to abuse others far worse. I say we put you in a room with them and you guys can have a nice talk. For someone that can't take a joke and feels the need to defend pedophiles this relentlessly is eyebrow raising.
kwsfww ago
I'm not implying those things at all no. What I meant is that they are perpetuating abuse that has been done unto them and you are perpetuating violence when these things haven't been done to you but done unto other people, which obviously effects you, as it does to me as well. I wish no harm for anyone.
If this is an issue that is being perpetuated by abuse throughout generations then how can you condone violence as a solution as well? I am not saying they deserve WI FI and 5 start meals but I think they deserve to have their voices heard without the threat of violence. They still deserve prison but we know what can go down in prisons to known child abusers. The inmates, many of whom are murderers and abusers themselves agree with your policy. So that is somewhat telling. All I think is that we don't advocate any more hatred and violence than we need to.
stunknife ago
Do you really not understand sarcasm? I'm not even condoning violence. My first comment was a joke but there was some truth to it. If they killed or ate your kids, obviously you would want to harm them. I don't see how being outraged is a bad thing. If this was another matter I would not feel as motivated to wish death upon them. However, it is a universal principle that if there's children involved, we must protect them by any means necessary. It's really easy to take the sjw/hippie high road and say "stop being so violent and show empathy", but if your kids were involved, then I'm sure you would agree.
kwsfww ago
Yes I understand sarcasm very well. I think in fact that I might be guilty of too much of it in my personal life. You should know that tone can be very hard to detect plainly through text. What you said didn't come off as sarcastic at all when this is mostly a place for serious discussion and when there are people seriously condoning shoving glass shards up the abusers asses as punishment.
But yes you are right in humor including sarcasm their is usually truth veiled behind it. I don't have kids but if I did and I knew this happened to them I imagine I might want to incite some kind of violence but I cannot say for sure. If I felt they were being punished appropriately maybe I wouldn't feel the need to perform any violence upon them myself, I don't know.
I also agree that we must take whatever measures that are necessary to put an end to all serious abuse in the world, especially when it involves children, but if death isn't necessary then it shouldn't be used as punishment and I merely want to discuss this nature of the problem because frankly everyone so far has been doing a good job uncovering the truth of the matter. I am happy with this community and the work they have done.
I can't sit here and tell you exactly what forms of punishment are necessary but I can assure you that we always need to maintain some level of empathy in every situation, whether good or bad.