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Phobos_Mothership ago

I don't think one article sourced from Russia Insider is that big a deal, especially if the info is accurate.

CJJacobs ago

You have got to be kidding @Phobos_Mothership. Sorry pal, either you're compromised, drunk, or delusional.

If that article spreads off-site and gets any traction outside of voat, it literally ruins huge tracts of credibility in the mainstream/non-woke audience.

Good Lord, this site is compromised!

Phobos_Mothership ago

why do you say that, if the information is correct?

CJJacobs ago

REALLY?!?!?!?!

Phobos_Mothership ago

Yes, really.

HolyMoly0 ago

There have been many front-page posts with this same information that didn't come from Russian publications. It's really fucking horrible PR to have a Russian article defending Pizzagate (and especially tangentially addressing the "fake news" issue) at the top of our front page, especially at this exact point in time

Phobos_Mothership ago

you said it yourself 'tangentially' and that is at best.

HolyMoly0 ago

But not "tangentially" defending Pizzagate--which is the point of my argument--EXPLICITLY defending Pizzagate.

CJJacobs ago

I'm not the first here to point out that 'Phobos' -- whose name in Greek incidentally means 'fear' -- is with the dark side and a compromised moderator.

You'll notice too that when called out on this, to my knowledge, he does not deny it.

HolyMoly0 ago

Well I don't see any conclusive evidence that Phobos is compromised. But at the very least, anyone who frames other peoples' arguments as poorly as @Phobos_Mothership just did mine should not be a moderator here.

Surprisingly bad judgment and communication skills.

Phobos_Mothership ago

Why? because I pointed out that it sounds really stupid to say that it is "Bad PR" to have accurate information from a source that just happens to be based in Russia, and confirmed by sources elsewhere? Because I noted that you mentioned how 'tangentially' this connects to fake news? Because it is NOT fake news, but you believe that because the MSM is stating that fake news is from Russia that we should consider ACCURATE news from russia to be fake news and censor it accordingly?

HolyMoly0 ago

I never said Russian news is always fake news. I meant that it is a Russian article arguing against the NY Times, which is potentially dangerous to have on our front page, since there is such an intense red scare being peddled by the MSM and Federal government, who are actively trying to censor the internet (more specifically, us) on the basis of "dangerous Russian propaganda."

The "fake news" part was the cherry on top of the ice cream that was my actual argument. Instead of refuting my main argument, you took the little detail and twisted it to make it stand for the whole thing. I don't like that kind of tactic one bit.

Phobos_Mothership ago

And you're going to ignore the fact that you are treating REAL NEWS like FAKE NEWS because you are afraid that the msm will use it against you? And that none of the other mods I've pinged have taken issue with the post?

HolyMoly0 ago

Did I say the Russian article is fake news?

Phobos_Mothership ago

you are treating it like it is fake news by reducing its credibility on the grounds that the msm claims russia is providing fake news.

HolyMoly0 ago

I'm trying to keep Pizzagate alive. I think having this article on the front page threatens our survival. That's it.

Phobos_Mothership ago

then take it up with the other mods, I've already told you what I think. If another mod wants it deleted than they can do that.