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ScientiaPotentia ago

Actually, It's true that Moses had horns in the Old Testament.

chlrndrmz ago

Not Moses but is believed the mark God gave to Cain as part of the punishment for killing his brother were a set of horns so other animals knew not to kill him. Cain became like a beast of the field. Generations later, it is said that Tubal Cain, one of his descendants accidentally shot him with an arrow while hunting for game with his father lamech. Tubal Cain according to Rashi refined Cain's craft by inventing better weapons for killing. Flavious Josephus says that Tubal Cain exceeded all men in strength (became a gibbor) or whose DNA somehow changed to become a Nephalim. According to legend the nephalim are the ones who taught men farmachia (science) and how to build weapons (technology).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubal-cain

http://echoes.devin.com/watchers/names.html

ScientiaPotentia ago

Moses has horns. QRN conotates horns. 69 times in the hebrew bible. From the horns on the alter to job's daughter. There are dozens of hebrew words for light and rays of light. The author chose QRN. Hab 3:4 is also a "horn" designation.

http://taylormarshall.com/2013/08/the-horns-of-moses-defending-michelangelos-horned-moses.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBrlZsYamYw

chlrndrmz ago

The word used in original Hebrew is Qaran. It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses’ hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone (Qaran) because of his speaking with Him.

Notice that context in which the word Qaran is used, <The skin of his face>. Imagine literal horns protruding from the skin of his face... You must take into account the context in which the word is used and when you do it makes absolutely no sense because horns do not protrude from the skin of the face. Furthermore, Moses has just come down from the top of Mount Sinai where the very glory of God manifested, and where God used a rock to shield Moses from his glory or he would have died. When Moses came down from the mountain his skin was literally glowing (Qaran) , which in itself means the very authority of God was with him. This is verified by Maimonides (Rambam) and other greats sages Nachmanides. Also, throughout scriptures horns are used to describe authority and even empires.

Here is an example from Psalm 18:2, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

How can salvation have a literal horn?... It doesn't mean that. It means God is the authority of salvation.

Chances are it was a silly mistake done by Jerome during translation and since the vulgate was the official translation at the time the sculpture of Moses got horns.

ScientiaPotentia ago

There is no mistranslation. The story conveys a message about time, great amounts of time (2160 years cycle of the Procession of the Equinox). The story of Moses never actually happened. It isn't literally true. The story is an allegory regarding the movement of the stars through the vernal equinox as Earth processes from Taurus (the Bull) to Aries (the Ram) around 2000 BC. Moses is representative of the coming Age of the Ram by the Ram's horns which is why the Jews blow the Shofar and used to engage in Blood sacrifice as Moses did when he ordered all the worshipers of the Golden Bull to be killed turning his most fervent followers to slaughter the idol worshipers of the old age of the Taurus the Bull, including their own families. Moses is an evil immoral disgusting character and has nothing to do with any God of Salvation, Truth and Goodness, but an horrible evil petty vindictive God of slavery, rape, torture, mutilation, murder and child sacrifice.

chlrndrmz ago

You're either a fool, a shill, or luciferian zombie. Keep in mind that Satan's downfall took place when pride was found in his heart. You sure sound like a heart full of pride and is in your nature to speak the lies of your Father.

ScientiaPotentia ago

I'm the Fool.

chlrndrmz ago

You are very quick at quoting Satanic versions of the past yet call Biblical stories false allegories and God to be a vengeful God. That, plus your rant about white supremacy in one of your earlier comments says quite a lot about what's in your heart.

PRIDE<< You act and regurgitate doctrines of Satan so naturally. So it comes as no surprise to find the amount of hatred that's in your heart.

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good (Psalm 14:1).

Not my words. God's words. But keep believing the lies of Satan if you chose. As for me I chose to believe Yeshua because I've seen with my own eyes how demons quake and are bound by His name.

And I've seen how a person can go from looking perfectly normal to looking like a beast (literally) who wants nothing more than to see you dead. - Like those reptilians you believe in, except we crazy Christians call them demons. Those types of experiences tend to change your outlook of reality. So maybe you should get some experience before you copy-paste something you found from another website.

ScientiaPotentia ago

Okey dokey, boy have you got things all messed up. Science and the Scientific Method is what I used to determine the truth. The universe is made up of rational bits and pieces and I use science to understand how it all works. I can create a model of a system and then take it apart to see the evidence of it's machinations. I don't believe anything.

Serious question; Have really seen a demon or was it a mentally ill person having issues you didn't understand? Perhaps, a person who was in desperate need of medical attention which you saw as "possessed"? Humans are animals. Our brain function is what we call our personality and that can malfunction due to many factors from dehydration, drugs/poisons, overheating, stress, physical damage or malformations. The person you saw should seek the help of a medical professional not some minister, witch doctor or priest.

Also, what is it with you people and demons, reptilians and aliens? Demons, reptilian or whatever you want to call them don't exist. Or for that matter, I have never seen one or had any credible evidence of reptilians, demons, spirits, aliens, Yeti, or the Loch Ness Monster. So until I have evidence, that is, tangible, provable, uncontroversial solid, reproducible evidence, I am not believing in any of it.

I don't believe one word about the Talmud (which is what I was quoting), the Quran, the myth of Thor,/Zeus/Rama, the Bible, the Upanishads, the Lord of the Rings or any other book unless a claim made in any of those books can be proven beyond a shadow of doubt.

I was simply reciting what others have written, because that is precisely what I am doing; Retelling the story of what others believe. I am a history buff. I like to read stories and retell them. That is all. It's a hobby.

Rational scientific inquiry forms what I know about the universe. I don't believe in anything. I can't be swayed by what I read in a book. It has to be derived from first principles like 1+1=2 or logical proofs like 'I think therefore I am".

You clearly believe in God and take the entire religion of Christianity at face value; spirits, demons, devil, angels and all. Well, it isn't real. The bible itself is fairly obviously written as an analogy and allegory not to be taken as literal suspending all the Laws of Nature.

Most of the things in the Bible which seem supernatural actually aren't at all. They are just not literal. The miracles Jesus performs aren't miraculous at all. They all have rational explanations. For example, he turns water into wine. Here Jesus is taking on the personification of the sun or sky god which rains on the field which makes the grape vine grow. Then people can crush the grapes to make wine. Simple and rational. He isn't some cheap magician. It's a primitive way of teaching people the Water Cycle before proper schools were put in place which is what religions did before states evolved enough to take over the education of the populace.

However, Jesus is a very moral and good person. I follow what Jesus said because he was a good person. I don't care if he was "the son of God" or if he was just a man. The words attributed to Jesus that I have read I judge to be good and I accept them as my guide for living a good life.

You sure like throwing those labels around. Also, I am not a White Supremacist. I am more of a White Inferiorist. I like Blacks, Asians, etc. I just happen to completely disagree with forced mass immigration into the Western World and with the manipulations of Marxists, Globalists, International Finance and Corporations. I an anti-Globalist. You can call me whatever you want. It changes nothing.