For lack of a more formal plan, @ByTheBook suggested using Twitter as a backup place to overrun if needed. We may want to amend this list, but his reasons for suggesting this are solid, from a tactical standpoint. The primary rally point (RP) suggested on Twitter is #Jesus.
Backup sites, per suggestion are: #SonofMan, #SonofGod, #Immanuel, #Messiah, #SecondComing, #Christ, #KingoftheJews, #INRI.
That being said, I think our # 2 and #3 backup sites should be something more memorable - I'm open to suggestions. I was thinking #2 - #usarmy and #3 - ??? We need something more immediately memorable.
Open to thoughts here. We need some backup to a backup. Other than Twitter too - they'll hack Twitter and say the Russians are doing it. Or the CEO of Twitter. Whichever one.
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wecanhelp ago
I don't see how this
Sounds like a bad idea, but maybe I'm misinterpreting something, in which case please help a brother out.
CJJacobs ago
Did try but...will try again. The point is in a movement/marketing so to speak to increase awareness it makes sense to start with a reliable base. The reliable base in this case, at least for the time being, is Christians.
You are not going to get a more 'all-in' base to believe this crap is real and that it is going on than orthodox Christians. We already get it. We know that evil is real. We already understand and believe that this satanism stuff is real too and so it will take very little convincing to alert other Christians to what is going on. The problem is too many Christians are still following the mainstream media narrative. I spoke with some people again this week who had not even HEARD of pizzagate. As more Christians start hashtagging #Jesus and getting woke and spreading the word, esp. to people in their circles, you will see an upswing in people in general --- from all backgrounds -- looking into this.
As a Christian, I in NO WAY feel offended by the use of #Jesus and nor do I feel that my Lord and Savior Jesus is offended by this, since it is sin and evil and sickness which He came to die and pay for. THis is what Jesus died for. Christians understand that. Far from finding it offensive, most will understand that this is exactly the kind of cause/work they should be supporting since it supports Jesus' way of caring for 'the least of these' ie - the most vulnerable -- which is at the heart of Christianity.
As mentioned, if Twitter decides to ban the hashtag #Jesus -- they will have a firestorm like no other on their hands. Remember when Christians went bananas last Christmas with Starbucks over a little red cup?
Times that by 1000.
Christians will go utterly bonkers (though not violently so, which is more than I can say for some Muslims, sorry) if #Jesus get banned. This would add more attention and awareness to our cause.
Hope this helps.
wecanhelp ago
Thank you. Unfortunately you're only answering two of the four questions, and even if I fully agree with your points (which I only partially do), I'm mostly worried about the second question that you're not addressing.
I'm fairly sure this attempt would significantly distract and alienate non-believers, divide the community itself, and water down its image, so to speak, that is currently based on critical, evidence-based thinking. If I, as a non-believer, think that you as a Christian believe in something stupid, and that your beliefs in said something rely on no factual evidence whatsoever (which non-believers, by definition, do think), and I discover Pizzagate closely tied with your belief, then I may suspect that it's also something stupid and people believe it without any factual evidence.
The media might hurt us less, but we're hurting ourselves severely, alienating an enormous subset of the critical mass we absolutely need.
CJJacobs ago
Your point is well-taken.
People who are prone to believing that Christianity or religion in general means that a person cannot be 'scientific' or 'evidentiary' in their thinking will likely be put off by this.
But is that more the fault of these religious communities than anything else -- for allowing that false belief to pervade the culture for so long? I say it is. Far from being anti-evidence or anti-science, for example, Christianity is actually the religion from which the scientific method sprang. Most of the early Western scientients, were Christian also. Christian thinkers also codified Greek logic and Roman law and used them as the basis for the Magna Carta among other things.
Somehow the cultural narrative has been skewed to downplay those facts. That is the fault of our education system and of people who have allowed the truth to be sublimated.
But you are correct: many people nowadays believe that in order to be 'religious' one must be de facto anti-science.
I don't know if that factual error can be corrected right now.
I would hope, at least, if nonreligious people are claiming to be pro-science that they would be open to ALL evidence therefore, regardless of whom it is coming from. That would be the most scientific position to take. And open-minded: Be open to the truth no matter what. Perhaps we could take that angle: be open minded.
But, alas, you are quite right that many may not adopt even a truly scientific mindset about this and might reject it out of hand because it is associated with a religious source.
(Although I believe there is a logical error embedded in that way of thinking, I do think it could happen.)
I don't know how to get around that right now. This is just an immediate 'finger in the dyke' fix to try and buy us more time to raise just a little bit more awareness-- before they come for us on voat too. The CTR ppl are already here in force distillling the threads into nonsensical and barren fake 'leads'.
There is a good chance this forum will be fully useless and corrupted within a few weeks.
Don't have a better idea at the moment. Sometimes just got to make do with what we have... All the best.