Yes! I think an important element should be forgiveness if they knew of or helped cover up these crimes in the past.
For example, it's very possible Obama started his presidency with good intentions, but got threatened and indoctrinated into going with the program. Could be why his hair turned grey. This investigation only gave us a glimpse behind the scenes, we still don't know the whole picture and who the ring-leaders are. Is our goal to get hate boners and attack everyone partially involved, or to actually end the atrocity?
If anyone in Washington has just a smidgen of a moral compass, they'd be happy to use a day they can come forward and confess their sins. And we need to consider that some people that look guilty as hell could be victims of bigger forces.
I thought come forward day was just about victims. I now see it is about those who are embroiled in this, and even those who want to stop committing these crimes. I am glad you brought that up. i think it is an often overlooked aspect. As terrible as this crime is, the most ideal thing, is for those doing it, to have a change of heart. If it is the fear of punishment that stops them, they should know, that legally, they will be lot better off, if they come clean, than if they get caught, and if they can do anything, to help children who are still in danger, that has to be a big incentive for clemency, I would think. People often do have misgivings about wrong things they do, and there needs to be a realistic goal, of encouraging them to listen to their heart, and do the right thing. I hope come forward day, would be aimed at all people ,who have any information, and all people who have had anything happen to them that they have not reported, for fear of it not being pursued, as well as all those, who want to come clean. If the priority is the safety of children, then something needs to be done, to assure people that they can speak up about this.
Your point is valid because the criminal connection of loyalty between these people is so profoundly strong on account of paedophilia placing a perpetrator beyond all society's redemption. And because they are so desperate not to be revealed they will do all kinds of other depravity to avoid being outed
It makes me sick to my stomach but offering some kind of forgiveness may be one way to reveal and stop this.
FUCK! what am I even saying? Forgiveness? When we wouldn't consider forgiving less nefarious crimes? This whole thing is so profoundly fucked up.
hey you just gave me an idea. Was thinking today. if we make a non sex offender register, we could narrow down the threats to children, in some significant ways. I got the idea, from the Reina Michaelson case. She would interview children at schools and they would come forwards. she found out heaps, by simply going and doing logical things. she had a stipulation in her organisation, that all members had to do a background check for sex crimes, and crimes against children... Done right, a polygraph, would be an excellent way, for people to show the truth amongst us all. People would volunteer, and I think relish the opportunity to do one, and show, by just a few simple questions. "I have not trafficked children, inappropriately touched them, or killed them, and I do not have not intention to." I do not know exactly how it works, but it could be huge success. and it has the same sensibility of any quarantine. The main complaint in not stopping this, is not knowing, but it can all be known. Also body language experts are almost as good as polygraphs, and in combination, would be over a hundred percent accurate this simple test should be standard for all positions of responsibility already.
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connornm777 ago
Yes! I think an important element should be forgiveness if they knew of or helped cover up these crimes in the past.
For example, it's very possible Obama started his presidency with good intentions, but got threatened and indoctrinated into going with the program. Could be why his hair turned grey. This investigation only gave us a glimpse behind the scenes, we still don't know the whole picture and who the ring-leaders are. Is our goal to get hate boners and attack everyone partially involved, or to actually end the atrocity?
If anyone in Washington has just a smidgen of a moral compass, they'd be happy to use a day they can come forward and confess their sins. And we need to consider that some people that look guilty as hell could be victims of bigger forces.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
I thought come forward day was just about victims. I now see it is about those who are embroiled in this, and even those who want to stop committing these crimes. I am glad you brought that up. i think it is an often overlooked aspect. As terrible as this crime is, the most ideal thing, is for those doing it, to have a change of heart. If it is the fear of punishment that stops them, they should know, that legally, they will be lot better off, if they come clean, than if they get caught, and if they can do anything, to help children who are still in danger, that has to be a big incentive for clemency, I would think. People often do have misgivings about wrong things they do, and there needs to be a realistic goal, of encouraging them to listen to their heart, and do the right thing. I hope come forward day, would be aimed at all people ,who have any information, and all people who have had anything happen to them that they have not reported, for fear of it not being pursued, as well as all those, who want to come clean. If the priority is the safety of children, then something needs to be done, to assure people that they can speak up about this.
MolochHunter ago
Your point is valid because the criminal connection of loyalty between these people is so profoundly strong on account of paedophilia placing a perpetrator beyond all society's redemption. And because they are so desperate not to be revealed they will do all kinds of other depravity to avoid being outed It makes me sick to my stomach but offering some kind of forgiveness may be one way to reveal and stop this. FUCK! what am I even saying? Forgiveness? When we wouldn't consider forgiving less nefarious crimes? This whole thing is so profoundly fucked up.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
hey you just gave me an idea. Was thinking today. if we make a non sex offender register, we could narrow down the threats to children, in some significant ways. I got the idea, from the Reina Michaelson case. She would interview children at schools and they would come forwards. she found out heaps, by simply going and doing logical things. she had a stipulation in her organisation, that all members had to do a background check for sex crimes, and crimes against children... Done right, a polygraph, would be an excellent way, for people to show the truth amongst us all. People would volunteer, and I think relish the opportunity to do one, and show, by just a few simple questions. "I have not trafficked children, inappropriately touched them, or killed them, and I do not have not intention to." I do not know exactly how it works, but it could be huge success. and it has the same sensibility of any quarantine. The main complaint in not stopping this, is not knowing, but it can all be known. Also body language experts are almost as good as polygraphs, and in combination, would be over a hundred percent accurate this simple test should be standard for all positions of responsibility already.