First is this 2 different groups?same people? who listens to this? Confuse. Wondering exactly how out of the loop I am? Because aside from the pedo creep vibe - it sounds pretty bad. They have produced several videos though (time, effort, money), and usually this type of thing is is to appeal to a fan base. WHO ARE THE FANS? Are any of their loyal fans speaking out in support? Has anyone found any of the music maybe at a used record shop or the like? Merchandise? Did they play other venues or ONLY cosmic pizza- ? Would like to get a grasp on what this group is really all about. CDs, cover art, band pics? How many members? Another post suggested maybe they were a front to distribute cp- If they are legit musicians or performance artists or whatever you call that- maybe some of their fan base or merch could offer insight......