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DystopianDaze ago

I agree that we need to critically examine things, vet things whenever possible, and not claim speculation as fact.

An aside...there is no such thing as "post-birth" abortion, that is called infanticide, i.e. murder.

heks_ ago

DystopianDaze - In 2012 some philosophers presented a case for infanticide under the label of "post-birth" or "after-birth" abortions in the Journal of Medical Ethics. The article can be found here.

DystopianDaze ago

I have read it before. If you'll notice, though, the definition of abortion did not change because some fucked up individuals with degrees tried to prettify the murder of babies.

Edit: typo

heks_ ago

I agree. I only used the term because in the clip I heard from the show at Comet Ping Pong the person seemed to be joking about killing a baby immediately after birth and even before the cord had been cut. The term "infanticide" could refer to killing a child of pretty much any age.

DystopianDaze ago

I heard that clip, but do not recall anything about the umbilical cord being mentioned.

Actually, no, it refers to murder of a baby during the first year.

heks_ ago

Yeah, as I recall the cord was mentioned.

As for "infanticide" only referring to the murder of a baby within the first year, I saw one definition that stated that, but most definitions don't seem so strict: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infanticide. That meaning is suggested in the legal definition but the medical definition seems significantly more broad.

In any case, at this point we're literally just arguing over sematics :) I think it's clear now what I was referring to when I mentioned "post-birth abortion" while we agree that such a thing has not actually be folded into the meaning of "abortion".