The aspect of pizzagate that's troublesome is the effect it has on the less stable population. On Sunday, a citizen investigator went armed into CPP to investigate himself. I really believe that's what happened, I don't think it was a false flag... just doesn't fit the M.O. of any other false flag, so I have a hard time believing it was a government-created situation.
A lot of people here probably were very young in the 80s or weren't even born yet - but there was a similar "satanic panic" in the 80s, now the paranoia is spreading like wildfire because of social media and the internet.. Back then it was just word of mouth.
Is there something going? Maybe. Should Comet Ping Pong and James Alefantis be flat out convicted by the jury of social media before he's even been given a trial? Probably not. Try to look at it from both sides.
Just, for a moment, imagine that he's NOT GUILTY of all the heinous acts everyone is saying he is. What the fuck would you do in that situation?
Now, that's not to say either way - maybe he's guilty, maybe he's not - but yeah, all the paranoia and accusations definitely are putting people's lives at risk. Employees of Comet Ping Pong, who likely have nothing to do with anything other than punching the time clock at the joint, don't deserve to have their lives endangered because of some internet tinfoil hattery.
There are 2 sides to this very controversial issue, and valid points and arguments on both ends. I'm just asking that people consider the OTHER side
If he was mentally unstable enough to bring a gun, he would of shot his gun. He didn't. The police were there ridiculously quick. The news is trying to cover every little aspect of everything related to Pizzagate up.
You have to question everything you hear from the big news.
The police got there quick because they are aware of the situation with pizzagate and the craziness surrounding it. There's also a lot of high-profile politicians who frequent that area, so they are prepared to respond quickly, at any time.
As far as your claim that if he was mentally unstable enough to bring a gun, he would have shot it... I disagree. I know plenty of people who are 2nd amendment enthusiasts, and they open carry. Open Carry is completely legal in NC, where he is from. He very well could be used to openly carrying a firearm. One thing is for sure: I don't know what was in his head, and neither do you. Neither one of us are psychic.
But I DO KNOW that this area is heavily patrolled by police and a quick response time is not suspicious at all. It means the police were actually doing their job. Imagine that!
The media isn't covering Pizzagate because there is no journalistic claim to be made. There are only questions. How should the mainstream media cover it exactly? If you were a news producer, how would you "cover it"? Asking questions is not "news".
People are using confirmation bias, which we all have, to connect every dot they can that support the pizzagate theory.
I'm in here every day, hours a day researching along with every one else, but I keep an OPEN MIND, and realize that most of what's pointed out here is, in fact, speculation with no real concrete evidence of everything. Just tons of QUESTIONS and no substance.
If you can't wrap your brain around how unstable people can get emboldened by stuff like this, I can't help you.
I will continue researching, keeping an open mind, and when I disagree with something, I'm going to say it. Everyone's got their pitchforks and torches out - and IMO people need to slow down and think more critically.. and look at things from the other side, too.
That's because you defend your confirmation bias. "look like shills" says it all. You don't want to even entertain the possibility that any of this is contrived.
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r3dtr1x ago
The aspect of pizzagate that's troublesome is the effect it has on the less stable population. On Sunday, a citizen investigator went armed into CPP to investigate himself. I really believe that's what happened, I don't think it was a false flag... just doesn't fit the M.O. of any other false flag, so I have a hard time believing it was a government-created situation.
A lot of people here probably were very young in the 80s or weren't even born yet - but there was a similar "satanic panic" in the 80s, now the paranoia is spreading like wildfire because of social media and the internet.. Back then it was just word of mouth.
Is there something going? Maybe. Should Comet Ping Pong and James Alefantis be flat out convicted by the jury of social media before he's even been given a trial? Probably not. Try to look at it from both sides.
Just, for a moment, imagine that he's NOT GUILTY of all the heinous acts everyone is saying he is. What the fuck would you do in that situation?
Now, that's not to say either way - maybe he's guilty, maybe he's not - but yeah, all the paranoia and accusations definitely are putting people's lives at risk. Employees of Comet Ping Pong, who likely have nothing to do with anything other than punching the time clock at the joint, don't deserve to have their lives endangered because of some internet tinfoil hattery.
There are 2 sides to this very controversial issue, and valid points and arguments on both ends. I'm just asking that people consider the OTHER side
Trabidius ago
It was definitely a patsy who was supposed to shoot someone and couldn't get the job done. Or it was a shill who just wanted to make us look bad.
r3dtr1x ago
That's like, your opinion, man.
You don't have any proof of anything, just a theory, conjecture, and speculation.. like the rest of this pizzagate stuff.
Trabidius ago
If he was mentally unstable enough to bring a gun, he would of shot his gun. He didn't. The police were there ridiculously quick. The news is trying to cover every little aspect of everything related to Pizzagate up.
You have to question everything you hear from the big news.
r3dtr1x ago
The police got there quick because they are aware of the situation with pizzagate and the craziness surrounding it. There's also a lot of high-profile politicians who frequent that area, so they are prepared to respond quickly, at any time.
As far as your claim that if he was mentally unstable enough to bring a gun, he would have shot it... I disagree. I know plenty of people who are 2nd amendment enthusiasts, and they open carry. Open Carry is completely legal in NC, where he is from. He very well could be used to openly carrying a firearm. One thing is for sure: I don't know what was in his head, and neither do you. Neither one of us are psychic.
But I DO KNOW that this area is heavily patrolled by police and a quick response time is not suspicious at all. It means the police were actually doing their job. Imagine that!
The media isn't covering Pizzagate because there is no journalistic claim to be made. There are only questions. How should the mainstream media cover it exactly? If you were a news producer, how would you "cover it"? Asking questions is not "news".
SIMONBARROW ago
Shill alert!
r3dtr1x ago
People are using confirmation bias, which we all have, to connect every dot they can that support the pizzagate theory.
I'm in here every day, hours a day researching along with every one else, but I keep an OPEN MIND, and realize that most of what's pointed out here is, in fact, speculation with no real concrete evidence of everything. Just tons of QUESTIONS and no substance.
If you can't wrap your brain around how unstable people can get emboldened by stuff like this, I can't help you.
I will continue researching, keeping an open mind, and when I disagree with something, I'm going to say it. Everyone's got their pitchforks and torches out - and IMO people need to slow down and think more critically.. and look at things from the other side, too.
SIMONBARROW ago
People who come up with lame, often laughable attempts to explain suspicious matters away look like shills to me.
r3dtr1x ago
So you are a shill?
SIMONBARROW ago
?
r3dtr1x ago
That's because you defend your confirmation bias. "look like shills" says it all. You don't want to even entertain the possibility that any of this is contrived.
SIMONBARROW ago
That possibility was entertained and dismissed a long time ago.
SIMONBARROW ago
Your points are just so weak that any other explanation doesn't seem reasonable.