"I tried to explain"
"When I try to explain"
"She refuses to read"
"She is a fully developed sheep"
I'm sorry, but grow up and learn some interpersonal communication skills. Not everyone is going to have the mental capacity or focus on something like this. Not everyone is going to 'wake up.' You need to stop pressuring your mom. I don't even understand why this is a topic of discussion with her. Are you a teenager who lives with her and you feel the need to be right?
My mom absolutely does not have the mental capacity to understand something like this. If I even slightly bring up anything controversial, she will glaze over. I drop it because it's not worth hurting myself (let alone our barely existent relationship) by getting frustrated. Meanwhile, my boyfriend, who doesn't read too much into conspiracies, will at least have a discussion with me about what's going on and at least feign interest. This is because he's intelligent and has an open mind.
Keep the discussions with people who matter and stop hurting yourself with people who will never understand.
"I'm sorry, but grow up and learn some interpersonal communication skills." I am 25... She starts talking to me about it first, she engages me into these conversations, I will tell her I don't want to and she won't stop, and then I bring up my stuff and I am the devil, and she turns it on me, I always just agreed and ignored everything else.
There is no one who matters to me in my life. I am 25, i am a virgin and am likely to die a virgin, the only person who really matters to me in my life at this point is my mother.
It seems like everything I do in life just hurts me, it's okay. It's nice that you have a boyfriend. I don't usually ever talk about this stuff, other people (mainly my mother) brings it up then makes me out to have started it, pretends like I am being aggressive, etc.
I usually talk about science (biology, chemistry, geology, (I love these 3), etc), supplements (working out supplements), working out, and tv shows I like to watch: HIMYM, Simpsons, etc.
" This is because he's intelligent and has an open mind."
Sigh, I am aware I am a piece of shit, don't worry, I will be dead soon.
Hello, i am a mom, and my son also lived with me until he was 28. Let me just say this.... you are in a toxic situation and the anger is coming from you both. You need to get your own place. I highly recommend that you move out and get your own life and let her live hers. Living with your parents is not healthy now that you are older. After my son moved out, we both now have a much better relationship. He now has a girl, is getting married, bought a house, got a job he loved... etc. No kid should stay home for any reason after the age of 20 because you are YOUNG and need to find your own way and likes and loves and happiness. NOW as far as Pizzagate, that is a tough one. I believe it, and as an older person, i also don't like the MSM. They have been propagandists for decades. She may never open her eyes, but you have. Take pride in that and in the fact that you can think for yourself! That is good. Also, forget being suicidal. i was too at your age because everything, even living on your own seems really hard but its NOT, its rewarding and its more fun than you can imagine. Yes there are ups and downs but that is how you learn in life to deal. Get out, Create a life for yourself. your mom will be fine and so will you!
Take what she says with a grain of salt. You can't let anyone's words, whether from some girl on the Internet or your mother, rattle you. In my opinion, she was being condescending, but in the real world people are jerks. You have to be able to deal with that.
Get in the habit of having self-respect. Don't call yourself a piece of shit, and don't cower when people challenge you. Allow yourself to be wrong. Anyway, here's what I heard from that girl's post:
Grow up, I know better than you
You need to do what I say
you are stupid for even thinking about talking to your mom about it
I'm sorry you feel so down on yourself. I had a lot of self-esteem issues like that last year after quite a few events in my life snowballed. If your mother is calling you the devil, that may have something to do with it.
This isn't a therapy session so I won't go too deep into things here, but I would strongly recommend if you live with her to attempt to leave that environment ASAP. It's toxic for the both of you and it will make your issues worse. (I'm saying this as someone who has had to leave toxic environments for my own mental health.) Based on your post, your mother has issues with boundaries and may have narcissistic traits.
P.S. If you are suicidal, please don't. If you are able to look at things like pizzagate with an open mind and you have a love for science, you are very valuable to this world.
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featheredmasks ago
"I tried to explain" "When I try to explain" "She refuses to read" "She is a fully developed sheep"
I'm sorry, but grow up and learn some interpersonal communication skills. Not everyone is going to have the mental capacity or focus on something like this. Not everyone is going to 'wake up.' You need to stop pressuring your mom. I don't even understand why this is a topic of discussion with her. Are you a teenager who lives with her and you feel the need to be right?
My mom absolutely does not have the mental capacity to understand something like this. If I even slightly bring up anything controversial, she will glaze over. I drop it because it's not worth hurting myself (let alone our barely existent relationship) by getting frustrated. Meanwhile, my boyfriend, who doesn't read too much into conspiracies, will at least have a discussion with me about what's going on and at least feign interest. This is because he's intelligent and has an open mind.
Keep the discussions with people who matter and stop hurting yourself with people who will never understand.
AmCompletelyfedup ago
"I'm sorry, but grow up and learn some interpersonal communication skills." I am 25... She starts talking to me about it first, she engages me into these conversations, I will tell her I don't want to and she won't stop, and then I bring up my stuff and I am the devil, and she turns it on me, I always just agreed and ignored everything else.
There is no one who matters to me in my life. I am 25, i am a virgin and am likely to die a virgin, the only person who really matters to me in my life at this point is my mother.
It seems like everything I do in life just hurts me, it's okay. It's nice that you have a boyfriend. I don't usually ever talk about this stuff, other people (mainly my mother) brings it up then makes me out to have started it, pretends like I am being aggressive, etc.
I usually talk about science (biology, chemistry, geology, (I love these 3), etc), supplements (working out supplements), working out, and tv shows I like to watch: HIMYM, Simpsons, etc.
" This is because he's intelligent and has an open mind."
Sigh, I am aware I am a piece of shit, don't worry, I will be dead soon.
je-sui-pepe ago
Hello, i am a mom, and my son also lived with me until he was 28. Let me just say this.... you are in a toxic situation and the anger is coming from you both. You need to get your own place. I highly recommend that you move out and get your own life and let her live hers. Living with your parents is not healthy now that you are older. After my son moved out, we both now have a much better relationship. He now has a girl, is getting married, bought a house, got a job he loved... etc. No kid should stay home for any reason after the age of 20 because you are YOUNG and need to find your own way and likes and loves and happiness. NOW as far as Pizzagate, that is a tough one. I believe it, and as an older person, i also don't like the MSM. They have been propagandists for decades. She may never open her eyes, but you have. Take pride in that and in the fact that you can think for yourself! That is good. Also, forget being suicidal. i was too at your age because everything, even living on your own seems really hard but its NOT, its rewarding and its more fun than you can imagine. Yes there are ups and downs but that is how you learn in life to deal. Get out, Create a life for yourself. your mom will be fine and so will you!
faissaloo ago
Please stick around, the smartest people tend to be the most depressed and we need people like you.
lawfag123 ago
Take what she says with a grain of salt. You can't let anyone's words, whether from some girl on the Internet or your mother, rattle you. In my opinion, she was being condescending, but in the real world people are jerks. You have to be able to deal with that.
Get in the habit of having self-respect. Don't call yourself a piece of shit, and don't cower when people challenge you. Allow yourself to be wrong. Anyway, here's what I heard from that girl's post:
Not very helpful feedback, if you ask me.
angryindividual ago
Hey, buddy, I love you and your interest in bringing the depths of evil into the light. You're doing a good thing. Relax, my friend.
featheredmasks ago
I'm sorry you feel so down on yourself. I had a lot of self-esteem issues like that last year after quite a few events in my life snowballed. If your mother is calling you the devil, that may have something to do with it.
This isn't a therapy session so I won't go too deep into things here, but I would strongly recommend if you live with her to attempt to leave that environment ASAP. It's toxic for the both of you and it will make your issues worse. (I'm saying this as someone who has had to leave toxic environments for my own mental health.) Based on your post, your mother has issues with boundaries and may have narcissistic traits.
P.S. If you are suicidal, please don't. If you are able to look at things like pizzagate with an open mind and you have a love for science, you are very valuable to this world.