We should be extremely careful about any posts trying blame "the Jews" and such. I'm not saying there aren't some connections to be made with powerful Jewish people involved at the highest levels. BUT there are people out there for whom the "Jewish conspiracy" is THE overriding conspiracy and everything ultimately comes back to a shadowy elite of Zionist Jews who manipulate all world events. They will try to cast pizzagate as a Jewish plot (I've already seen a few comments here trying to do that). And this is very bad for people trying to investigate the truth because it is so easy for the MSM to then tar us as anti-Semitic (fairly or not). And that plays in with their alt-right/white nationalist/Neo-nazi narrative, which currently all the Hillary-liberals and SJW-types are up in arms about. If they succeed in turning this angry mob against us, well it may not be the end of the world but it would certainly be an annoying obstacle. And it could very well win popular opinion to their side, because your average normie doesn't want to have ANYTHING to do with something that might be remotely connected to Nazism. I don't know if the shills are smart enough to realize this, but it would be an effective strategy for them to promote that connection. Let's nip it in the bud before it occurs to them.
That doesn't mean these Jewish conspiracy types are necessarily shills. But this is not a Jewish conspiracy sub and they can go somewhere else for that. We need to be clear that pizzagate is not partisan, and it is not racist. We're concerned with stopping the abuse of children, period.
Mageza ago
haha :)
Mageza ago
You make some good points, and I do think that the ideology of Jewish supremacy needs to be talked about and opposed publicly. But I think there is a fine line between saying that Jews are among the powerful group that make up the elite powers that be, and saying that Jews literally control everything. I believe they have undue influenced in media, banking, etc. I want to be able to steadfastly oppose racism and ethnic supremacy in all it's forms, including Jewish supremacy, but I'm afraid that there are no brakes and people will just go straight to neo-nazism like Richard Spencer. It's too easy to fall for the explanation that Jews literally control everything. The fact is that there are competing factions in the elite, its more like Game of Thrones. If people can be measured in their rhetoric, I support calling out Jews, but I don't think that's possible in the current political climate.
Mageza ago
I won't deny that there may be a lot of Jews involved, especially in the media cover-up side of things. But are they the bad guys because they're part of the elite or because they're Jews? I don't see any advantage to pointing out their Jewishness, the only thing you gain by that is getting tarred as an anti-Semite. Pedophilia and child abuse is not limited to Jews, just look at the Roman Catholic Church. I say we oppose and expose the elite pedophiles, I don't care whether they're Jewish or some other religion. It's the child abuse that makes it wrong, not their religion.
carlofusilier ago
No point to add the 'Jewish' accolade to this conspiracy. All it does it make it sound less believable. Adding that 'jew' tag to does not even benefit the investigation, as we are up to our necks in leads anyway, true or not.
JUE ago
http://sgtreport.com/2016/12/study-watching-the-maintream-news-causes-anti-semitism/
dindonufin ago
Right, but do facts even matter to brainwashed zombies?
stickittotheman ago
The words he speaks are true, we are all humanary stew, if we dont pledge alliegance to... the eternal joo
smoothassilk ago
sieg heil! ... no rly pls slit your veins open and die faggot.
smoothassilk ago
voat is a mix of /pol faggots in a reddit setup. best thing is to just ignore that obvious trolling. ofc there are those deranged personalities who actually rly believe that the holocaust was a hoax, just feel sry for them and go ahead..
Headstart ago
The sad part is all this Jew conspiracy shit takes away from REAL investigations.
If you want to talk about a Jewish pedophile, start with Stephen Spielberg.
If you shills dropped the world conspiracy shit, we could actually focus on Jews that are involved in pedophilia...
hookednosedjoooo ago
I'll tone down the jew talk but im not changing my name
stickittotheman ago
http://thezog.info/list-summaries/
AllDancingCrap ago
@Mageza 0.7 hours after your post, this Newsweek article came out.
Contingency plans for this?
Guy_with_the_face ago
Its likely the shills that are posting the racial comments, my personal solution to these sneaky bastards is 0 contact, just like how you treat a narcissist. The more they can't get out of you what they came at you for, the more their agenda backfires. These people rely on our negative reactions in order to gain any leverage. If we suspect someone is a shill or troll, make their efforts a waste of money.
stickittotheman ago
The list is literally endless, i could start one now and wouldnt finish for years.
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
You're newer here so let me get you up to speed, this website is heavily white nationalist. Voat grew in the Alpha stages because of coontown being banned on reddit. By choosing to be here you are going to be associated with white nationalism. I understand you may feel that is undesirable, but contrary to what you may think the safest place to engage in free speech is under this wing.
Now, as far as pizzagate, I'm not going to go out of my way to push any narrative not associated with finding and naming the pedophiles, however, you are going to need to get comfortable very quickly with the jewish element. And for the record, I don't believe you are a shill, nor am I, so let's agree to discuss things rationally.
The media as we know it today is censoring all coverage of pizzagate, who do you think controls the media? Why are the power brokers disproportionately jewish? And why are the new members here so keen to try to stop "anti semetism". That doesn't mean we stop investigations with the Jews, as certainly there are goys and arabs involved, but the names that have come up over and over again are disproportionately Hebew. I've been to the middle east and eastern europe, we know about the trafficking that occurs over there, I want all of this to stop. I have seen too many "pure coincidences" to stay silent when accounts no older than a few hours start with the "hey guise chill with the jew talk".
Respectfully, let's work together to connect the dots and please keep an open mind.
mouserr ago
anti-semitic is used like conspiracy theorist, as a means of dismissing any valid legitimate statement or topic without actually addressing the topic. when used against something like this it clearly signifies that there is something to the investigation and that there is a vested interest in keeping it under wraps
stickittotheman ago
Yea i heard that as well. To anyone else even murder is ok as stated in the Talmud
DoughMallet ago
I like the "White Nationalist" approach. Considering I'm Metis and Canadian...
bdmthrfkr ago
They can say whatever they want, just stick to the facts and if a bunch of Jews are involved (or not) then the facts will speak for themselves.
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
Oy vey! Fake News? Come on schlomo, you can do better.
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
Oh vey, BAD GOY! Aren't you worried about looking anti-semetic? How will anyone take us seriously if you start naming the jew!? Let's focus on child trafficking but don't get hateful otherwise the jewish owned mainstream media won't give us the front page story we want!!!
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
Khast: Member for Four Days
You have three posts, two of which are telling everyone to be worried about looking like nationalists. If you start contributing serious content I will take your concern more seriously. The people who care about stopping child-trafficking aren't going to be driven away by association.
stickittotheman ago
The jews are working overtime to shut it down. The only real evidence that we are winning is when we start to see Jews being jailed, which incidentally NEVER happens, and if it does, they let them out shortly, like Epstein. http://qz.com/568580/googles-chairman-wants-algorithms-to-censor-the-internet-for-hate-speech/ http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/the-great-shutdown-googles-jigzaw.html http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37657524 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-07/purge-we-all-knew-was-coming-shutting-down-extremist-content http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-06/tech-titans-team-block-extremist-content-centralized-censorship-database http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-facebook-idUSKCN0UW25C
GoGowdy ago
Yes all of them at the top.
R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd ago
My theory, if this site starts to make head way. It suddenly come down with a severe case of DDoS.
redditsuckz ago
George Soros will buy this site for 6 gorillian dollars then dismantle it.
R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd ago
Lol if that's the case (which may very well be) we are an asset to the economy. Start ups will line up to let us contribute to their site, in hopes of being bought out.
redditsuckz ago
https://i.sli.mg/SVyKiI.jpg
Anti-semitic, Its a Trick, We Always Use it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nex-oSKPX2w
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
No matter what you do, no matter how nice you talk, you are going to be called a NAZI. You will NEVER be covered fairly. No lightbulb is going to go off in the heads of reporters to make them cover you fairly, because they are the ones who have been covering up this filth.
So don't worry about being politically correct and get comfortable with being called a white nationalist. Jews literally suck the blood out of babies penises, they push almost all the pornography in America, they shelter pedophiles in Israel. You better believe they are at the center of this. If you pretend like they are "just like us" you're going to miss the mark.
GoGowdy ago
The mod team are actively working against the community.
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
GoGowdy: Member for 2 hours and already posting how we shouldn't name the Jew in multiple posts. Also demoralizing and trying to turn us against the mods.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Shills are gonna shill.
Kawksnahch ago
Aight so... wasn't 4chan spreading around a renaming of hateful terms? I think jews were Skypes. I loved the idea of turning things like Google and Microsoft into hate speech a la Pepe.
But wait.. I thought the jews were more into butt stuff than kids? Lemme go ask my rabbi. He never diddled me and I'm started to feel like i got Jewed. Christian kids get diddled AND christmas. Poor jewish kids get like... 7 days of bullshit, 1 day even more bullshit, and no diddling.
apparatchik1488 ago
Back to tel aviv, kike shill.
Headstart ago
Someone ban this idiot.
Go back to your shit posting chan, crunt.
ArchonFall4All ago
Your honor, I submit exhibit A for consideration ^