The accused actually addressing the evidence and showing us why, piece by piece, the circumstances are all coincidence. To be honest, I thought pizzagate was a bullshit distraction from evidence of basic wrongdoings in the podesta emails, at first. Then ALL the circumstantial evidence overwhelmed me, and I just can't really imagine there isn't something sinister going on, anymore. I'm pretty all-in. It would take quite a lot, and boy it would be a relief to go back to normal life and conspiracy theories that kind of trail off to no where. This one just keeps gaining traction, and the way its being handled in the main-stream media only serves to convince me more. Thanks for putting me to the test, though. This is heavy shit we're all thinking about, and we do need to be careful leveling accusations. But its just so much evidence.
To be fair, it's not really evidence per sé in that no-one's actually seen literal, physical proof of child abuse. But there are an alarming number of bizarre coincidences.
In USA 200,000 children a year go missing, worldwide its millions. If it were proven there were NO MISSING children that would be proof that Pizzagate is a fraud.
That said, its a FACT that millions of children per year just disappear, as if they were processed for meat and blood and just vanished from the earth. Thus pizzagate is an investigation as where did those children go.
Yes, I agree there are lots of connections, and something must be going on behind the scenes. But how could one specifically disprove the child abuse aspect? If there's no way to disprove an argument, I feel like it's not a valid argument, which I think is the issue people tend to take with conspiracy theories. Facts can always be cherry-picked to support either side.
This is not new. In McMartin there were 100's of children, but no proof ever found. Later GUNDERSON (FBI) proved the assertions were true satanic torture house in moutains, tunnels all proven, but at the time there was no proof.
The common thread here is that LAW ENFORCEMENT is the pedophiles and they protect their masonic luciferian kind. That's why NO evidence is found LEO job in USA is to destroy evidence.
Don't NUKE me ppl, this is how it handled in UK, in Franklin Coverup they actually put the sodomized kids in prison for going public.
I made a new reddit account recently, and was arguing with an aggressive, insulting schill on /r/conspiracy and started putting together a short-list off the top of my head...Its a crappy comment, but I'll copy paste it here.
Probably just coincidence that a Department of Justice prosecutor whose specific wheelhouse is handling child trafficking and child porn cases liked the most questionable of the posts on alephantis' instagram, right? Just coincidence that Clinton speechwriters own the bookstore "politics and prose" down the street, and across the street there is a non-profit charity called beyond borders proclaiming to combat child sex-trafficking in Haiti, of all places. Probably just coincidence that Clinton herself was proven, through the wikileaks emails, to be personally involved in the pardon of Laura Silsby who allegedly was caught trying to grab 33 sum-odd kids out of that very same disaster-stricken country, most of whom weren't even orphans. Probably just coincidence that Podestas emails refer so much to pizza out of context, and that there are articles from years ago about his and his brother's weird taste in artwork. Probably just a figure of speech when they were referring to the torture chamber in their own home. Probably not unusual that there are proven to exist TUNNELS under these businesses. Probably not weird that Alephentis has been caught in a lie about the existence of a basement under his business, and that there used to be controversial artwork on the walls depicting strange acts with children. The video of majestic ape speaking at Sasha Lord's (a woman who self-proclaims to work with at-risk kids and books most of her events at comet ping-pong) is TOTALLY normal nothing to bat an eye at there. Should I keep going? The evidence is circumstantial, yes, but it is more than enough cause for reasonable suspicion, which is the central pillar of any serious investigation. This is a serious investigation, you cannot refute it just by saying "fake news". I resent you so much.
edit: oh and spirit cooking that's normal practice too. And alephentis' name translating to I love children.
more: Oh its just a coincidence that the Podesta bros don't even deny their connections to convicted pedophiles Dennis Hastert and Jeffery Epstein and that they appear in Epstein's butler's little black book, along with the Clintons, other politicians (including Trump), famous Hollywood and music industry icons.
Like, I think that's a pretty overwhelming amount of coincidences for any reasonable person. Its not like I'm a serious researcher, either, I just browse these forums and wikileaks a lot.
I agree. These are all really alarming, and more than enough cause for suspicion. To my mind the Podestas and other parties involved should be falling over themselves to address these.
But they're still coincidences, rather than "hard" evidence. I'm not attacking PizzaGate, I'm just trying to stay objective.
The Narrative unless you have ignored it is that the entire block is tied together. The Wet Cleaner disposes of the bodies, massive amount of missing children disappear never to be seen. Cannibalism and Ritual Satanic abuse what's left is dissolved with LYE and flushed at the wet-cleaning shop. There is even a pharmacy where drugs can be obtained to keep children alive for next event.
....
Yes, its all a very deep story involving 1,000's of players, but the Franklin Cover-up showed that it goes to the white-house. CIA/SAUDI involvement on all property's in the immediate area of Besta-Pizza, DOJ involvement, but always superficially denied by BOTS.
...
IF all claims were false the story would have died.
Like Flynn-JR said yesterday "Follow all leads no matter how insane until proven false",
largely PIZZAGATE is just about building a HUGE dossier on the WASH-DC child sex trafficking history and network.
It may be left for future generations to search the DC sewage treatment plants to find the DNA.
I know, and this post is really constructive for our community. We need to take a step back and ask questions like this. Investigations, however, do operate under suspicions, they are never objective as long as you have suspects. Its okay to lose some of your objectivity in pursuit of the truth when you suspect something to this degree, in my opinion. Real investigators certainly do. The tone of that comment was addressing a huge jerk of a Schill over on reddit. Its hard not to get emotional. We don't have to hold ourselves to the standards of a professional investigation, here. We mean well. If we are 100% wrong I will start giving credence to the official 9/11 narrative. Also, I'd rather never see the hard evidence.
Thanks for hearing me out. I think we all just want to know the "right" answer, one way or the other. I don't really like the act of arguing, but I do like to feel like my perception of the world is correct.
Patience is key. If you haven't noticed, this is really taking off like wildfire. Mainstream media printing the word Pizzagate, even in an attempt to discount it, is helping it spread. I saw it printed in places today I never would have dreamed of a couple weeks ago. I think its much more likely we'll see more strange events tied to the subject than refutations. I believe the population of the world is more awoken than ever in history, and if this is real, it can't possibly stay suppressed.
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Splinterinyourmind ago
The accused actually addressing the evidence and showing us why, piece by piece, the circumstances are all coincidence. To be honest, I thought pizzagate was a bullshit distraction from evidence of basic wrongdoings in the podesta emails, at first. Then ALL the circumstantial evidence overwhelmed me, and I just can't really imagine there isn't something sinister going on, anymore. I'm pretty all-in. It would take quite a lot, and boy it would be a relief to go back to normal life and conspiracy theories that kind of trail off to no where. This one just keeps gaining traction, and the way its being handled in the main-stream media only serves to convince me more. Thanks for putting me to the test, though. This is heavy shit we're all thinking about, and we do need to be careful leveling accusations. But its just so much evidence.
RobertAKARobin ago
To be fair, it's not really evidence per sé in that no-one's actually seen literal, physical proof of child abuse. But there are an alarming number of bizarre coincidences.
turkishPizza ago
Here's an answer to your rhetoric.
In USA 200,000 children a year go missing, worldwide its millions. If it were proven there were NO MISSING children that would be proof that Pizzagate is a fraud.
That said, its a FACT that millions of children per year just disappear, as if they were processed for meat and blood and just vanished from the earth. Thus pizzagate is an investigation as where did those children go.
turkishPizza ago
We have records showing that children are being killed and videos are shown pay-per-view.
We know that the nieghbors have a wet-clean for disposing of body's
We know that the entire block is Saudi/Dubai owned.
We know that Arab lawyers have ran the block for 20+ years and worked with DNC.
We know that CLinton Foundation got 1/2 Billion US Dollars from arabs, and she now has $1.5BIllion in Dubai bank.
We know that Clinton's team was stealing children from Haiti and passing them to Domican Republic and then on to Saudi.
We know that Clintons wars in Ukraine, Syria, Libya, .. have resulted in MILLIONS of missing children.
...
What do we know about James Alefantis? Bad taste in art, and that he was a boy-toy of CTR (BROCK) who /r/the-donald hated.
RobertAKARobin ago
Yes, I agree there are lots of connections, and something must be going on behind the scenes. But how could one specifically disprove the child abuse aspect? If there's no way to disprove an argument, I feel like it's not a valid argument, which I think is the issue people tend to take with conspiracy theories. Facts can always be cherry-picked to support either side.
turkishPizza ago
This is not new. In McMartin there were 100's of children, but no proof ever found. Later GUNDERSON (FBI) proved the assertions were true satanic torture house in moutains, tunnels all proven, but at the time there was no proof.
The common thread here is that LAW ENFORCEMENT is the pedophiles and they protect their masonic luciferian kind. That's why NO evidence is found LEO job in USA is to destroy evidence.
Don't NUKE me ppl, this is how it handled in UK, in Franklin Coverup they actually put the sodomized kids in prison for going public.
Splinterinyourmind ago
I made a new reddit account recently, and was arguing with an aggressive, insulting schill on /r/conspiracy and started putting together a short-list off the top of my head...Its a crappy comment, but I'll copy paste it here.
Probably just coincidence that a Department of Justice prosecutor whose specific wheelhouse is handling child trafficking and child porn cases liked the most questionable of the posts on alephantis' instagram, right? Just coincidence that Clinton speechwriters own the bookstore "politics and prose" down the street, and across the street there is a non-profit charity called beyond borders proclaiming to combat child sex-trafficking in Haiti, of all places. Probably just coincidence that Clinton herself was proven, through the wikileaks emails, to be personally involved in the pardon of Laura Silsby who allegedly was caught trying to grab 33 sum-odd kids out of that very same disaster-stricken country, most of whom weren't even orphans. Probably just coincidence that Podestas emails refer so much to pizza out of context, and that there are articles from years ago about his and his brother's weird taste in artwork. Probably just a figure of speech when they were referring to the torture chamber in their own home. Probably not unusual that there are proven to exist TUNNELS under these businesses. Probably not weird that Alephentis has been caught in a lie about the existence of a basement under his business, and that there used to be controversial artwork on the walls depicting strange acts with children. The video of majestic ape speaking at Sasha Lord's (a woman who self-proclaims to work with at-risk kids and books most of her events at comet ping-pong) is TOTALLY normal nothing to bat an eye at there. Should I keep going? The evidence is circumstantial, yes, but it is more than enough cause for reasonable suspicion, which is the central pillar of any serious investigation. This is a serious investigation, you cannot refute it just by saying "fake news". I resent you so much. edit: oh and spirit cooking that's normal practice too. And alephentis' name translating to I love children. more: Oh its just a coincidence that the Podesta bros don't even deny their connections to convicted pedophiles Dennis Hastert and Jeffery Epstein and that they appear in Epstein's butler's little black book, along with the Clintons, other politicians (including Trump), famous Hollywood and music industry icons.
Like, I think that's a pretty overwhelming amount of coincidences for any reasonable person. Its not like I'm a serious researcher, either, I just browse these forums and wikileaks a lot.
RobertAKARobin ago
I agree. These are all really alarming, and more than enough cause for suspicion. To my mind the Podestas and other parties involved should be falling over themselves to address these.
But they're still coincidences, rather than "hard" evidence. I'm not attacking PizzaGate, I'm just trying to stay objective.
turkishPizza ago
The Narrative unless you have ignored it is that the entire block is tied together. The Wet Cleaner disposes of the bodies, massive amount of missing children disappear never to be seen. Cannibalism and Ritual Satanic abuse what's left is dissolved with LYE and flushed at the wet-cleaning shop. There is even a pharmacy where drugs can be obtained to keep children alive for next event. .... Yes, its all a very deep story involving 1,000's of players, but the Franklin Cover-up showed that it goes to the white-house. CIA/SAUDI involvement on all property's in the immediate area of Besta-Pizza, DOJ involvement, but always superficially denied by BOTS. ... IF all claims were false the story would have died. Like Flynn-JR said yesterday "Follow all leads no matter how insane until proven false",
largely PIZZAGATE is just about building a HUGE dossier on the WASH-DC child sex trafficking history and network.
It may be left for future generations to search the DC sewage treatment plants to find the DNA.
Splinterinyourmind ago
I know, and this post is really constructive for our community. We need to take a step back and ask questions like this. Investigations, however, do operate under suspicions, they are never objective as long as you have suspects. Its okay to lose some of your objectivity in pursuit of the truth when you suspect something to this degree, in my opinion. Real investigators certainly do. The tone of that comment was addressing a huge jerk of a Schill over on reddit. Its hard not to get emotional. We don't have to hold ourselves to the standards of a professional investigation, here. We mean well. If we are 100% wrong I will start giving credence to the official 9/11 narrative. Also, I'd rather never see the hard evidence.
RobertAKARobin ago
Thanks for hearing me out. I think we all just want to know the "right" answer, one way or the other. I don't really like the act of arguing, but I do like to feel like my perception of the world is correct.
Splinterinyourmind ago
Patience is key. If you haven't noticed, this is really taking off like wildfire. Mainstream media printing the word Pizzagate, even in an attempt to discount it, is helping it spread. I saw it printed in places today I never would have dreamed of a couple weeks ago. I think its much more likely we'll see more strange events tied to the subject than refutations. I believe the population of the world is more awoken than ever in history, and if this is real, it can't possibly stay suppressed.