I have spent dozens of hours this past week doing my own research, trying to remain as objective as possible. I've noticed that any time I verbalize findings, or my own thoughts that are AGAINST this pizzagate conspiracy theory, I get labelled a shill. That's just plain silly. I'm not trying to "shut down research" just encouraging people to actually think about the stuff they are saying. Not everything is as nefarious as you (or I) think it is.
My advice to everyone: Try to be objective. Challenge your beliefs. If something seems weird, look at it from other angles - but remain open-minded. Just because I don't believe Hillary, Podesta, and Alefantis are butchering babies in the pizza shop doesn't mean I don't believe that there's SOMETHING here, I just really, REALLY don't think this pizza joint is a central hub for child trafficking.
Alefantis may be weird, and he may keep weird company, and have weird artists at his venue, and like weird art - but that's not a crime. It's just being weird. So call me a a "shill", accuse me of "trying to halt the investigation" (lol), whatever - but really, honestlly, I was all freaked out in the beginning like so many of you are... After doing my own research, I'm not as freaked out anymore.
The truth, I think, may lie somewhere in the middle. I don't think there's NOTHING going on with Podesta and Alefantis, but I don't think Comet Ping Pong, the restaurant itself, really has anything to do with it.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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PizzaGatinOnYa ago
You hit on the correct point I think a lot of newer people around here are forgetting. This is not old, this has been going on for decades. It is now called PizzaGate in this generation. This has been reported since the 80's.
But in reality it is stopping human trafficking on a global scale. It was never singled out to just 1 place where the crime is happening. It is happening everywhere. How quickly everyone was tricked to keep focusing on comet ping pong when it is a problem involving much more powerful people.
Read up on the franklin files.. then remember that the New york times used to be a different kind of paper that would openly report on things like this! Look at how the media is controlled today.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/29/us/omaha-grand-jury-sees-hoax-in-lurid-tales.html
The video of these witnesses interviews is in the documentary that never aired thats floating around on voat. ---Edit
fromfiction1984 ago
This is why some people have suggested that we "rebrand ourselves" and change the pizzagate into another term. I am not even sure if it would be a good or very bad idea, but either way the proposition is usually firmly dismissed.
r3dtr1x ago
It won't happen. Pizzagate will stick. I just really hope people leave Comet Ping Pong alone. It's not good for our research or reputation for them to be hassled.