Hey there,
I resisted the urge to write something for days now, but it just becomes too much to not do it.
You all do a honorable job of digging and should really feel proud to be part of a resistance that has no historical comparison. It's just because of the age of information that we are as plebs are able to collaborate against the sheer unbelievable amount of conspiracy that seems to go on.
Im not that good at digging but I tend to think strategically and have a background in psychology, and I see a huge lack of strategical thinking on our part, even while actions like the memewars are genius.
It is clear that we are under observation and infiltration of at least some assets of JTRIG or CTR, and it a futile effort to try to identify many of em just due to the structure of our activist movement.
We are completely decentralised with temporary accumulations in threads & boards that get struck down, led off course or spammed into oblivion like playing whack-a-mole, only we are the moles.
This decentralisation is our biggest strength, because we are legion, we are hydra. Silencing an activist by PSYOP or blatant murder is still a resource costly solution for them they only can afford for key targets. They can't get us all. This makes aggregation of data difficult but I don't see many other options. It is highly possible that every of our attempt of public data aggregation or analysation will become corrupted. Which is why I'd take efforts like the attempts of creating wikis with a grain of salt.
We have to stay decentralised, there are already anons that vanished (most probably).
I spent (too) much time reading through leaked stuff on GCHQ JTRIG, NSA and other alphabet soups orgs capabilities, and while they are powerful they are not omnipotent. I will list some of their skills and opportunities, for spreading of information and clarity:
They can obviously access all the modern social media like twitter facebook instagram with the capability of inserting content and removing content. They basically own reddit and can track everybody of us, that isn't highly invested into anonymity. What makes you safe is being uninteristing.
In terms of direct malware attacks there is one quote I'd like to share: "If we can get them to click on a link coming to us, we own them" so be suspicious of popping up newcomers that want to just come on this one website. Everything can be screenshot, most information is on well known sites or social media. These newcomers are aswell the people that want us to accumulate effort into single places, which is highly unfavourable of our core strengths. They already learned stuff from us, where to clear tracks. What do you think why the Scottland Yard suddenly gets new funding for the Mc Cann case? Who is in charge of them? And the people that command the scottland yard are whose friends? They are leading the prosecutors towards europe to keep em away from them and keep em busy.
They can not chase bees, they are only hundreds, and we are thousands, but they can nuke a wiki. Pardon for repetition, I just want to make my point clear. We are fighting billionaires, we have to be clever, or people disappear.
Now on topic: These people we are fighting to expose, are all sharing a solipsistic worldview, like a fellow goat just explained really decently (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1458322/7048008)) They only see victims, or opponents and operate on this exact view. They make mistakes, become cocky, am egoistic and arrogant. This is maybe obvious in some cases likes James Alefantis or John Podestas blatant mockery in plain sight, but it is important to keep in mind for the choice of modus operandi that they tend to give away information freely, again like Alefantis. Thing is they control basically the whole media today and they will only react defensively once they feel threatened.
What do you think they do right now? Anally penetrating a toddler? I don't think so, they are highly alert and most probably destroy evidence where they can, demolish their easiest to find black sites, bleaching every surface and setting it on fire afterwards. Just remember how they operate on the Comet Ping Pong front. They even manipulate the traffic cam. I am relatively certain we will not be fast enough for many evidence to be found. Next thing is they control all 4 bases of our society, most importantly the judicative and the media. It will be really hard to reach more people for us, there are methods for us though to counter that. What we cant counter is the prosecution problem though. The only option that will not ultimately be a pirrhus victory with most of them getting away freely is open civil disobedience / disorder / revolt. We have to activate so many people that we finally can free our society of these inhumans.
To become concrete: We have to get rid of the idea that the Comet Ping Pong will lead to prosecution, there is nothing left to be found physically on this place almost certainly, and there will be no prosecution, because there is no power that can justice these inhumans except a gallow. What will lead to the juicy bits? I don't know, but I tend to think psychologically as I said: let them lead us to where they don't want us. The amount of people that suicided or disappeared at critical timeframes in Clinton prosecution attempts is incredible. As I said, they will always target keytargets to save resources, and they will only react when feeling threatened. We need to generate timelines of events of the Clinton Foundation and put in each and every person that died/disappeared at the correct position on the timeline and subject and we will start to see a pattern what kind of operation they tend to protect the most. Also helpful is filling the subjects in the Clinton Foundation with convicted sex offenders and check every Clinton Foundation associate/donor if there were charges against them that didnt follow through because people disappeared. This is the biggest smoking gun we can have, if we just accumulate the sheer amount of circumstancial death that surrounds them.
I suggest that in the spirit of staying decentralised that we produce pics of single timelines of single persons, each person can collect easily to accumulate them themselves.
What we can do aswell is weakening their grip on the media by starting to dig towards the media key persons the clintons control, because they are most likely involved. My best bet for now is the NY Times guy that yells the loudest atm at fake news that was working in the BBC and sabotaging when that british pedo billionaire (help me with the name pls) was a non-topic until he died.
Also we can easily use the Fake News tag against them, because the Donald-people are still activated. They just released the biggest Streisand Effect munitions ever, and it will be glorious if we Meme them to the ground about how our Mainstream Media is just FAKE NEWS.
There are so many topics they just don't even touch. 2 Months ago the biggest labour strike in WORLD HISTORY happened in India, guess you didnt even hear of it, eh? And so much more, that I bet myself didnt even hear. FAKE NEWS KEK
What we have to be careful with though is our attempts at spreading information, we are long way over into it than easily denyable code speech and art collection. We will damage our efforts if we continue to use this as main munitions at activating assets.
It is mandatory from a psychological viewpoint to first and foremost involve the peoples emotions that we want to activate. Donald Trump knows this. Instead of showing podesta emails ask: Did you know there are over a dozen CONVICTED type 3 sex offenders working directly under Clinton or in direct vicinity in her Foundation, and that Bill Clinton is even one of them with his best buddy Eppstein? here I show you the list, what they did, what they were convicted for and what sentence they got. Here look at this "Art" John Podesta collects, looks like Trauma therapy doesnt it? Oh and then theres this woman, and this woman and this they all work in child rescue organisations, this on in haiti, but were convicted of sex offenses. and so on. Hard facts.
While soft evidence, like sorros eyes and the other coindices are interesting and can lead to cross referencing suspicions where we can continue digging, they will not help us in publicity work, because most people are not as freethinking as we are, use less phantasy and are fighting their own devil, something called "reduction of cognitive dissonance".
Our opinions and beliefs are core of our personality traits, some more some less, and the older and deeper a thought is, the harder is it for people to witness reality that contradicts these thoughts. If you always were told your best news source is BBC, and am told BBC lies, your brain will jump to the conclusion that the idea coming from the outside is hostile and discredit it. "It cant be because it goes against my belief, this leads you have to be a liar and not them" We have to be careful at this immense level of conspiracy to not instantly trigger the peoples cognitive dissonance, but slowly introduce them to the idea of things being wrong.
That directly leads me to our options of distribution. Again our strength is decentralisation. Order a 100 1gb usb sticks, and let us collaborate our best writers on an introductory paper with all the images on why the clinton foundation is filled with sex offenders, put it on the sticks and let them laying around in Star Bucks and whatever with a big red edding READ ME, SHARE THIS INFO. They are only controlling the infrastructure here in the web, they can not follow hardware.
Introduce people verbally and ask them to introduce to others, build your own pyramid scheme. We need to wake up the people, because the media wont.
I hope my thoughts help
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apparatchik1488 ago
We need to stop being afraid of these filthy, dirty, hook nosed KIKES. We are good people. They are the epitome of evil.
VieBleu ago
I would like to have your post removed. There is no place in this discussion for racism. There are a whole lot of pedo Catholic priests don't forget, and a whole lot of WASPs too - Sandusky for example.
So take it somewhere else.
CJJacobs ago
We don't censor here.
VieBleu ago
that's not true - a no tolerance for anything promoting violence or vigilante justice is being discussed now by mods. This isn't 4chan, this is a public forum with an easily opened gate, which means that certain things like racism and violence which is sometimes associated with far alt right forums will do more harm for this topic than the temporary muting of people's free speech to be violence prone and/or racists. They are welcome to do that on other forums.
CJJacobs ago
The only limit on free speech -- legally, and by constitutional definition -- is when the speech incites or could incite physical violence.
If voat wants to make it and stay afloat as a viable speech and information forum, the legal definition of free speech should be kept and people should just learn to grow a thicker skin toward speech they 'dislike'.
In other words, free speech is for the speech we don't like, not for the speech we agree with. Merely racist or distasteful speech should NOT be banned. Free speech is a bulwark of any investigation and of any sane society. It should not be tampered with (unless, as I said, it will result in violence). We need free speech - speech that is distasteful, unpleasant, or even ugly -- to be allowed in this way to keep civil society.
VieBleu ago
other forums on Voat can do different things - this forum has a benefit from staying away from race baiting, vigilante justice, violence type comments because of it's specific purpose. There are plenty of places for people to exercise their speech, this is about investigating pizzagate. I'm not going to argue with you, if you don't get it, so be it.