FINALLY! PROOF: BUCKS CAMPING AND FISHING HAS A BASEMENT!!!! (pizzagate)

submitted ago by quantokitty

Oh, dear freakin' Lord!!! What a way to spend a Saturday, but I found it!!! Definitive proof that Bucks Camping and Fishing has a BASEMENT!!!

drum roll

Here's the article:

http://www.philly.com/philly/food/restaurants/20130822_San_Marzanos_vs__juicy_local_heirlooms.html

And I quote:

"Like Pastan, James Alefantis, owner of Comet Ping Pong in D.C., doesn't build his pizza sauce with DOP San Marzanos. For seven years, he has been buying late-harvest tomatoes from Toigo Orchards in Shippensburg, Pa., and canning them at nearby Stello Foods for use at Comet. Last year, Alefantis estimates, he bought 12 tons of Toigo tomatoes, which Stello turned into sauce and canned before trucking the jars to the basement at Buck's Fishing & Camping, Alefantis' other restaurant nearby."

Can I get a hallelujah and amen?

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quantokitty ago

Wow, last year he bought 12 tons of tomatoes? I wonder how much that translates into in terms of cans? Found this: 1 cup canned tomatoes = 1-1/2 cups fresh, chopped, cooked tomatoes. I'm thinking that has to be a huge basement!

AreWeSure ago

He's not storing tomatoes. He's storing sauce.

totesgoats908234 ago

http://www.healthycanning.com/canning-plain-tomato-sauce/

By using their calcs, and they say that this is for thin sauce, 12 tons is like 4800 liters. Liter and Quart are very close in volume so lets say they make it a bit thicker for pizza and its like 4000 quart jars worth. So if they used all 4000 in a year it would about 10 quarts a day.

From their website - https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=850x10000:format=jpg/path/s742dd563442b66d6/image/i76fe040c6efb745a/version/1320934194/image.jpg

If they had a basement at CPP, why would they store it at bucks anyway?

mosswitch ago

Why would they store them at bucks? And there lies the million dollar question. Because a) there is no basement at CPP or B) the basement is being used for something far more sinister than tomatos! We can't discount those pics of them breaking up concrete creating what looks like tunnels. This would be something next to impossible to hide, so he would have to lie!

totesgoats908234 ago

Why not make the basement at bucks the dirty deed place then? They wouldn't be hauling 12 tons of sauce over to their other business every year. It is very illogical to me personally. How do you explain the need for it to be at CPP?

totesgoats908234 ago

OK so lets say they do store them on a pallet to entertain the other commenter.

http://www.pressurecooker-outlet.com/Wholesale-Canning-Jars-By-The-Pallet.htm

They ship them 720 jars to a pallet so 4000 jars would be like 5 pallets worth. If put back into the boxes and stacked the same height, which I doubt they are doing.

DaveySemen ago

15 LBS of GRAPES makes one liter of wine, U people obviously know little of about how this stuff works. I would speculate that 200 LBS of raw tomatoes can make a 80LB bucket of tomatoe sauce. Which would be around 5 gallons.

Remember grapes, tomatoes, and humans are 95% water. ...

Do the math, what is it a few dozen pallets and those were the weight of fresh tomatoes, they have stew them before canning, which probably dropped the weight to 5 tons, which would be ten pallets, stacked it would just take a few sq-yards,

My bet is 5 gallon food grade sealed buckets, about 100LB each, that would be 50 buckets, could be piled to the ceiling again, just a few sq-yards.

Why do morons not investigate Besta-Pizza and ANDREW-KLINE DOJ?

HomeboyChris ago

Pretty sure the Andrew Kline thing is debunked. Everybody knows damn well this basement thing is the exhaust chute on the death star

quantokitty ago

Extracting liquid from grapes is not the same. They're CANNING tomatoes. This is the formula: 1 cup canned tomatoes = 1-1/2 cups fresh, chopped, cooked tomatoes. So for each 1 cup can you need 1 1/2 cups of fresh, chopped tomatoes.

AreWeSure ago

They are not storing canned tomatoes. From your link

Last year, Alefantis estimates, he bought 12 tons of Toigo tomatoes, which Stello turned into sauce and canned before trucking the jars to the basement at Buck's Fishing & Camping,

quantokitty ago

True enough. It's approximately 15 pounds of tomatoes for 8 pint jars of sauce. That's a phenomenally large amount to stock.

Re: the canned tomatoes, I was remembering the first quote from the other article he gave. It led me to believe he was canning the tomatoes.

[quote]Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.[unquote]

DaveySemen ago

5The formula is how many LB of fresh tomatoes does it take to make "Ketchup" ... It's a Weight to Volume problem,

15 Lbs of Grapes make a liter of wine 10LBS of tomatoes makes a 4 litres of tomatoe juice, you cook ( reduce ) it to one litre.

A large can of whole tomatoes if you reduce it to make pizza-sauce you get about 1 cup of sauce, so its about 4 to 1 reduction.

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But what does this to do with pizzagate not a fucking thing, MY POINT is that 12 tons fresh tomatoes would take up very little space reduced as ketchup, the reason you reduce is you can always add back water. I dry tomatoes, it takes 50 kg of raw tomatoes to make 1kg of dried tomatoes, often for canning we make tomatoe paste, it takes 50 LB of tomatoes to make a bucket of tomatoes paste

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I'm sure James Alefantis has his tomatoes reduced to paste, that way you just add back in water and onions and garlic and olive oil as needed make sauce,

12 TONS of fresh tomatoes produces 480 buckets of tomato sauce, 500 litres, is about 20 - 5 gallon ( 19 liter ) buckets. This is NOT a big operation.

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Why do people do anything to avoid Besta-Pizza, or Podesta, or KLINE? ... Why only chat about Jimmy Comet?