I'll name them: the antisemitic and the occult fixation.
1) Antisemitic theories I don't care about what's your views about Jews. You can hate them for all I care, but the problem is that some people are trying to say that only Jews and mostly Jews tend to be pedophiles. This is completely ridiculous and can be dismissed by even a cursory examination of the criminal statistics. Many of the worst monsters we know of, just as Scully, are 100% white and culturally Christian. What about the Catholic Church, one of the greatest pedophile organizations we know of, are they also all Jews? Let's stop this ridiculous nonsense. I know many of you come from /pol/ , but please keep the JIDF memes on /pol/ --- this subverse is about AN INVESTIGATION INTO A SPECIFIC SET OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCES we have, not to spread your theory about how Jews are behind everything bad in the world.
Now call me a JIDF all you want. FYI I'm 100% Slavic, living in an European Catholic country, born to a Catholic family, and have no connection to anything Jewish.
2) Satanism I see this thrown around a lot, is it by evangelical/fundamentalist Christians, are they among us? I don't know. But bear something in mind please. Satanism is often only symbolic, like a meme. If the elites talk about Moloch etc it could be in an ironic way. Let me give you an example. Suppose someone who knows nothing about /pol/ goes there and thinks: oh my! These people are members of a religion that believes a Frog controls the destiny of humankind etc. they would miss the point, right? Because they wouldn't understand the nuances and irony, the internal humor, behind the whole thing. It's similar for, say, Black Metal music. They are "Satanic bands" who wear pentagram symbols, upside-down crosses, etc. but it's not because they really worship Satan (save a few exceptions). They're mostly liberal, secularists who do it to provoke the Church (in Norway, the Church is part of the State... they have a State Church...) --- So it's a bit silly to just assume there's any real, unironical Moloch-worshipping going on in those circles.
As far as I know, demons don't exist, neither do reptilians.
I implore this community to stay on point and to stick to the evidence and minimize speculation (use Occam's razor when possible)
Sorry for this long-winded post, it comes from my worry that this will soon degenerate and in a few weeks we'll be reading threads like:
"BREAKING! FOUND THE SMOKING GUN! Jew Soros Made Pact With Satan (Lord ov Hell) to Drink Blood of Innocent Blonde Aryan Children to Stay Perpetually Young! PROOF INSIDE"
Thanks for reading.
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CJJacobs ago
You do not know what you are talking about.
UglyTruth ago
Can you explain the following?
And again the anger of YHWH was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. 2Sa 24:1
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. 1Ch 21:1
CJJacobs ago
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking?
Are you asking if this verse has to do with end-times prophecy? If serious, please explain what you're looking for or angling at. I do not understand. Thanks.
UglyTruth ago
I'm not talking about end-times prophecy, and I'm quite serious. I'm asking you to show that you know what you are talking about, regarding your accusation against Skanda.
According to these two verses a single being caused David to number Israel. In one verse this being is called YHWH (the LORD) and in the other he is called Satan. If you actually understand the material that the OP is talking (i.e. Satanism and Judaism) about then you should be able to explain this how these two verses can refer to the same being. If not then an apology is in order.
CJJacobs ago
There is no conflict here (between the two verses). At least, theologically there is not.
You noticed I used 'supernatural' to describe God earlier and 'preternatural' to describe satan. That because satan is a creature (fallen angel), and is NOT equal in any way (being, essence, substance, etc.) to God. God is above all and created all, invisible and visible.
In the two verses you mention, yes, while describing the same event, they show the difference between God's sovereign will (nothing happens without His permission) versus His moral will (not everything that happens is what He morally approves or wants). We're in deep theological waters here.
These verses showcase the distinction perfectly though: God is permitting satan to tempt David. In the other verse, we see the result or manifestation of that divine permission, the tempting. The Hebrew language is idiomatic (have researched) and it can be translated 'to permit'.
This apparent contradiction is, in a sense, good news. It means that evil is on a leash and can only go so far as (though researching pizzagate could make one question that; this is truly mindboggling and heartwrenching evil here).
Mercifully, though this does show that God limits the amount of damage that we can do to ourselves or that even fallen angels can do to us. Evil is not exponential, (though I think we can see even with pizzagate here where if it were not for the hand of God to stem the tide of it, it would/could become so).
Does this make God the 'author' of evil? (If that is what you are asking?). EMPHATICALLY NO.
Because God allowed free will and freedom of choice (instead of creating automatons), both angels and humans are subject to making wrong choices and choosing to do evil.
Evil is a human/angelic construct (fallen angels, but still), therefore, not a divine one.
Specifically, angels are on a binary system -- the are either angelic and with the redeemed or they fall. Because of the nature of angels (their ability to perceive with intellect all options of a given situation), once they have fallen, they are lost forever.
Humans, because of our nature, have a different chance. Even if/when we have fallen and chosen to do what is evil, we have the ability to repent, to amend, or to course-correct through the power of the Cross.
Though researching this pizzagate stuff certainly is beyond the scope of my ability to comprehend the depths of such evil and it challenges me very much emotionally, it does not challenge me spiritually other than an increased urgency to fight it, expose it, and stop it.
Evil exists because humans, tempted and encouraged by preternatrual evil beings we call demons, CHOOSE EVIL . I will repeat that: humans of their OWN FREE WILL, turn from God and CHOOSE EVIL.
I hope this is helpful?
May God strengthen and bless us all on here as we seek to expose this grave evil in our country.
UglyTruth ago
No, I did not notice that.