So, I was going back and forth in conversation over the course of almost two days with this person who was vehemently defending James Alefantis and CPP while professing that he didn't personally know them. Innocent enough, by itself if he truly believes that. In my conversation, I made sure to only use very specific references to specific actions of James Alefantis and Amanda Kleinman and not just the whole pizzagate theory, because he kept trying to bring up parts of pizzagate I wasn't even mentioning (Clinton, Haiti, etc). I showed evidence every time I could of how he was wrong, whenever he would try to baselessly defend them. The backup I have is from yesterday, so quite a few of his comments are missing. At one point he said Alefantis never made pedo comments on any of his instagram pictures, so I posted a picture of one proving him wrong. You can see my reply on the live page, but his comment previous to that is gone. You can see his comment on the sli.mg backup page though.
Current page, with his comments deleted:
http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2016-11-30/pizza-propaganda-the-local-fallout-from-fake-news
Backup page, with all of his comments up until backup point:
http://archive.is/fBcqF
The comment area is powered by Disqus, which allows you to create an account that can be used across multiple websites for discussion on the website. I looked at his account when he first started posting, it was the first time he had posted anything in 7 years.
Link to his deleted Disqus profile:
http://sli.mg/a/AflO9J
I googled his username, thinking I might find him elsewhere on the web, and it's actually a word that's tied to occultism.
http://www.occultopedia.com/a/axinomancy.htm
Now at first, I wasn't sure if this was worth sharing, but after seeing this comment on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5g8skv/veteran_wikipedia_editor_constantly_going_against/daqhio2/)) about a veteran Wikipedia Editor being tied to the Occult, and also actively trying to cover up Pizzagate, I think it's worth documenting and archiving/sharing. May be a piece to the puzzle later.
VieBleu ago
Wow, interesting.
The protestation that nothing is weird about Alefantis Instagram images and they are "typical of any aging edgy punk rock type" is too specific. This is the description of a cover, and I believe Alefantis is a covert operator with this cover. This person arguing with you sounds like they may be close to him.
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
I find everything about this whole situation so strange, I have no idea what will come from the whole pizzagate situation, I feel like it's going to be a wild ride.
wtf_is_happening ago
Gosh who knew? I kind of want to get an axe now and give that axinomancy a go out of curiosity.
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
Thank you. You are doing the community a great service.
OpenSoulOpenMind ago
Funny how he brings up the satanic scare in the 80s-90's, and mentions it to also be a hoax,...
I assume hes talking about the FALSE "syndrome" that was created in the 80s-90s solely to discredit the satanic day care abuse scandals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria))
Good digging!!
Scotty_Doesnt_Kno ago
Is doxxing breaking guidelines on here?
srayzie ago
I think he knew them or it's one of them
Gorillion ago
Yep, always look for their horse in the race, skin in the game, etc. My ass they're out there championing free speech and open debate. Check their comment history and you find SJW talking points at the very least. They are outright pedos themselves or active cultural saboteurs.
Free speech and open debate does not encompass bad faith and disingenuous argument, or sophistry.
zillakilla ago
golly ago
Don't waste your time debating, do more research. It is more rewarding too.
Headstart ago
I saw that Disqus user commenting on another article, fervently defending the perps. I thought it was very odd... along with his user name! Good detective work.
IfIDidIt ago
Jesus Christ, you didn't bother to read the post!
KingKongisCTR ago
That probably worries you because obvious shill is obvious.
Scotty_Doesnt_Kno ago
Found his FB for anyone interested.
Scotty_Doesnt_Kno ago
Apparently his name is Ian Thomson.
CJJacobs ago
Good catch.
Be sure not to 'give' pedo-apologists 'upper hand' (allowing them to go on and on) in any tactical conversation. Shut them down. Error has no rights.
DamnTheTorPEDOES ago
They are not even good at a defense and their troll shills are amateurs.
loneIy_jew ago
Why does it seem like everything we look into eventually leads to the occult?
O_Cobblepot ago
Onion layers. A protective layer of the onion (occult) to distract and discredit those going to any deeper layers.
undertheshills ago
Why kill babies if not for the glory of Satan.
SaveTheChildren ago
Ever since Spirit Cooking hit the scenes I've been a firm believer that these elites are a part of a satanic cult. It's what binds them together. The cult offers them power, fame, fortune, but they have to sell their soul to it.
Prepper_Jack ago
Well, I know this is probably a rhetorical question, but I'll take a stab at the answer anyway, as some people may not really grasp it.
There are two predominating worldviews we can develop through childhood. One is the traditional view of modern society - where everyone is actually a living breathing person. We recognize the consciousness of the individuals around us, and seek to exchange value in one way or another.
The other is the power paradigm, which regards everyone as either a victim, or an aggressor. The individual grows up lacking empathy for other people, and may not even consider them real. Some of this is genetic, but for others it is thrust upon them via abuse, lack of counter-guidance when they display aggressive behavior to other children, always getting what they want, and a whole slew of other things. Some of this is very intentionally perpetrated by the parents, but the result is generally a solipsism - the root of narcissism and psychopathy.
Now, people with a solipsistic world view don't generally see the benefit of trading with others, or having mutually beneficial relationships. They do, however, desire power and control. There is no reason to work, when you can get others to do that work for you. There are two tools for this - persuasion and force. Petty criminals learn only a small portion of these two ideas, and only learn it through experience (which often lands them in jail). Other individuals are more privileged, and get access to certain philosophies to help them navigate the world.
The occult is powerful in the regard, and should not be dismissed as entirely for kooks. Behind the symbolism are masked methods of controlling your prey, and gaining real world power. The occult is also a mechanism for control in itself - a giant ponzi scheme. If you engage in these practices with others, then you often perform illegal acts which allows you to be controlled. The only way out is for you to work your way up the food chain.
The elite in the world operate mostly by the power paradigm. Not all of them are into the occult, of course, but they may very well follow the same ideologies. They know that corrupted people are most easy to control, and so their corrupt narratives are pushed to the masses. Irresponsible behavior is lauded as cool, and occult symbolism runs rampant in media. From childhood to grave, you can be subjected to this propaganda. It's a net to snare people into their ideology, and to have them worship man (ie, the State), and become their fodder.
The occult is rising in America, and other countries as well. It's running rampant in Mexico, El Salvador, and parts of South America from what I understand. Many of these people think they're being edgy or something by adopting certain symbols and whatnot, and are actually harmless. Others aren't, and they're actually involved as little foot soldiers in this group.
pepe16 ago
What a post! Please help by connecting this to Kekism, which is also running rampant. What do you think about it -- is it harmful?
Edit: To be clear, I'm kind of a Kekite...
Prepper_Jack ago
Have you been asked to do illegal things to flies in the name of Kek yet, or force unsuspecting girlfriends to do you froggy style? That's when it becomes harmful...
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
I love this reply. Very interesting and thought out. Thanks for sharing.
grlldcheese ago
If it walks like a duck, and it looks like James Alefantis, it's a fucking baby raping duck
VieBleu ago
upvoted for gallows humor.
Annon365 ago
Lol , you need the occasional laugh to keep sane, I've been going out my f*ing mind for a month
standalone ago
Excellent reflex to archive and report. Who knows if that could tip us on something later on.
postfascion ago
Disinfo, but why would he have an obscure divination method as a name if there are satanic elements in pizzagate? They are trying to create an association between ALL the old ways and satanism. Thereby covering their tracks. To understand this whole issue you have to understand the "war" within the occult. This is a game of guilt by association.
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
"To understand this whole issue you have to understand the "war" within the occult."
I'm interested in hearing more about this. Care to elaborate?
postfascion ago
Sure. The distinction is between white and black magic. The former works with aspects of the universe serving an objective benefit, the latter with subjective self interest/indulgence.
Flaaffy ago
Not sure why you were downvoted. I've been doing a lot of research into the occult and Satanism lately because of the connections I'm seeing with it and Pizzagate, and I'm very interested in learning about this war within the occult myself.
quantokitty ago
Disinformationists clearly active and in play.
Good catch.
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
Thanks. Perhaps if we document enough of them, we will start to find a trail.
derram ago
https://archive.is/1Eg3O :
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