We're all human and sometimes we overstep our bounds. If you truly believe a post should remain make sure you're up voting it and if it does get removed bring it up -- peacefully -- with the mods.
We're trying to keep the sub clear and concise and sometimes it is hard to go through hundreds of posts that get posted in an hour.
think excessive concern that everything be in the right place is cutting off legitimate subjects.
Then legitimize the subjects. Make valid links to the pizzagate investigation. It's really not too much to ask to have a subverse about pizzagate not be about non-pizzagate things.
Crensch claims that discovering Obama's past isn't relevant to pizzagate.
As I told concerned - That's a lie. I said link it to the pizzagate investigation, not some claims about a dead gay lover. I don't much care for liars.
TBH, i had a look at all the deleted posts, and couldn't see a whole lot of merit in them. At least half were totally pointless, a few were just radical theories with no evidence.. no big loss on any of them - we do need to keep this place uncluttered so the quality doesn't get lost. Maybe a bit heavy handed but I really like the progress we have made in the last 48 hours so the system seems to be working?
Glad you appreciate it! Going forward, this is a pretty good description of the situation the mods find themselves in. We're open to changing the rules, but the sidebar is law for us.
I think the fact wikipedia is scrubbing Marina's wiki is pretty relevant and also I think the Obama post is relevant as well. They aren't the best post and may not be the TOP posts but I don't they should be deleted. Post about blood drinking age reversal and eye balls are left up but key suspects are being deleted ( not saying any are bad posts but just pointing out the hypocrisy in what is "relevant" according to censor happy Crensch ).
yeah that eyeball post does make us sound a little.. crazy... it would be awesome if we could stick to relevant facts and potential evidence that can help us bust this thing open. But all in all.. im excited about how much effort people are putting in and they are making real progress which is what this is all about.
He just needs to be less knee jerk with his decision and see of others pick up on the post in a productive way before deleting is all. Just wait a little longer than he is.
He seems suspect. He uses terms like "Please tell me how this helps catch these child fuckers" This was said on a post that grew legs. Its not the language you expect from someone who is a moderator. Just saying.
They said it because he thought the store fronts font was non pertinent. Kind of jumped the gun if you like because the poster was not exactly clear as to its pertinence. However I immediately understood the poster was hinting at the font seeming connected to the occult, which it is. Very much so.
Connecting a font to occult is still not a direct connection to pizzagate. Make that connection, and I'll be happy to watch your post rocket to the front page.
Thanks so much. it seems like noone is listening there. I see many are concerned about Crensch so why are you mods not addressing this? Why are they the owner and not king kong only?
Also, I'm owner because I'm a well-respected mod of /v/protectvoat and I'm here to help smooth things out between older goats and PG goats. I'm not generally one to brag, but I'm doing a very good job of it.
Tonight I started something where I lead by example for the other mods that still don't fully understand the position in which they find themselves. Hopefully I can eventually stop having to be so hands-on.
Post about blood drinking age reversal and eye balls are left up but key suspects are being deleted ( not saying any are bad posts but just pointing out the hypocrisy in what is "relevant" according to you @Crensch ). Let the users decide. You are trying to baby us and we aren't liking it.
You are taking advantage of the rules when you see fit which leads me to believe you have an agenda and may be CTR or JIDF or CIA etc.
Post about blood drinking age reversal and eye balls are left up but key suspects are being deleted
Read the links I give you. This was already covered.
Let the users decide.
They did. On making rules for submissions.
You are taking advantage of the rules when you see fit which leads me to believe you have an agenda and may be CTR or JIDF or CIA etc.
Your lying and not reading the posts in the links I give you that explain my position, and proving that by harping on the same, already-covered topic suggest to me that your motives here are not pristine.
Also, ping relevant users there. Use @username to do so, up to 5 in each comment.
I'm owner so that if KKWR gets a needle in his neck and disappeared, someone else can keep things rolling here.
I am from reddit and heard voat is a place to go because of censorship.
Yes. KKWR made this sub for the kinds of users that want a place to share the fruits of their investigations, and this place was getting hammered from all sides for the first few days of the exodus. The users wanted troll posts, shitposts, and other things that did not further the investigation removed.
Users here have the option of having mods that obey the sidebar rules with posts and deletions, or having a free-for-all.
crensch is a moderator at /v/protectvoat - and was one of the first to recognise the issues i was dealing with, in terms of shill attacks, migrating users, setting up a new sub and adapting to voat culture. He worked closely with me to help set up rules that would both help our investigation, and sit ok with the existing voat community.
I trust @crensch a lot and we needed redundancy - so that if i get disappeared, there is someone to step in.
@crensch is 100% against censorship. I strongly trust that if he deleted your posts it was because you were not following the rules in some way.
If you have an issue, please post the threads that were deleted, and ping myself and @crensch in them and we can have a look.
What I would suggest though, is to go back over the rules, and your posts, and try to figure out if you might have missed something. Then potentially you can repost in a way that aligns with the rules.
but without seeing the posts I can't say what the issue is.
Codewow ago
We're all human and sometimes we overstep our bounds. If you truly believe a post should remain make sure you're up voting it and if it does get removed bring it up -- peacefully -- with the mods.
We're trying to keep the sub clear and concise and sometimes it is hard to go through hundreds of posts that get posted in an hour.
Crensch ago
Kek. Amalek left for our sins, but he came back 8(
Crensch ago
I'm owner of reportctr because the owner of ctrreport removed submissions. After I made mine, he offered his subverse to me to not split the effort.
Check the fucking modlogs, you useless troll.
Crensch ago
Your posts do not comply with the rules. Period.
Crensch ago
Then legitimize the subjects. Make valid links to the pizzagate investigation. It's really not too much to ask to have a subverse about pizzagate not be about non-pizzagate things.
As I told concerned - That's a lie. I said link it to the pizzagate investigation, not some claims about a dead gay lover. I don't much care for liars.
28leinad82 ago
TBH, i had a look at all the deleted posts, and couldn't see a whole lot of merit in them. At least half were totally pointless, a few were just radical theories with no evidence.. no big loss on any of them - we do need to keep this place uncluttered so the quality doesn't get lost. Maybe a bit heavy handed but I really like the progress we have made in the last 48 hours so the system seems to be working?
Crensch ago
Glad you appreciate it! Going forward, this is a pretty good description of the situation the mods find themselves in. We're open to changing the rules, but the sidebar is law for us.
concerned1948 ago
I think the fact wikipedia is scrubbing Marina's wiki is pretty relevant and also I think the Obama post is relevant as well. They aren't the best post and may not be the TOP posts but I don't they should be deleted. Post about blood drinking age reversal and eye balls are left up but key suspects are being deleted ( not saying any are bad posts but just pointing out the hypocrisy in what is "relevant" according to censor happy Crensch ).
28leinad82 ago
yeah that eyeball post does make us sound a little.. crazy... it would be awesome if we could stick to relevant facts and potential evidence that can help us bust this thing open. But all in all.. im excited about how much effort people are putting in and they are making real progress which is what this is all about.
concerned1948 ago
Especially after the wikipedia post have came to light I was just reading
Elliphantastic ago
He just needs to be less knee jerk with his decision and see of others pick up on the post in a productive way before deleting is all. Just wait a little longer than he is.
concerned1948 ago
Exactly! He/She not wanting us to look into Obama is a major red flag.
Crensch ago
That's a lie. I said link it to the pizzagate investigation, not some claims about a dead gay lover. I don't much care for liars.
Elliphantastic ago
He seems suspect. He uses terms like "Please tell me how this helps catch these child fuckers" This was said on a post that grew legs. Its not the language you expect from someone who is a moderator. Just saying.
concerned1948 ago
I saw that. That was really bizarre. Do you know why they said that? Did any of the evidence say "child fuckers" or is the mod going crazy?
Elliphantastic ago
They said it because he thought the store fronts font was non pertinent. Kind of jumped the gun if you like because the poster was not exactly clear as to its pertinence. However I immediately understood the poster was hinting at the font seeming connected to the occult, which it is. Very much so.
Crensch ago
Connecting a font to occult is still not a direct connection to pizzagate. Make that connection, and I'll be happy to watch your post rocket to the front page.
Elliphantastic ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1457695
concerned1948 ago
Thanks so much. it seems like noone is listening there. I see many are concerned about Crensch so why are you mods not addressing this? Why are they the owner and not king kong only?
Crensch ago
Also, I'm owner because I'm a well-respected mod of /v/protectvoat and I'm here to help smooth things out between older goats and PG goats. I'm not generally one to brag, but I'm doing a very good job of it.
Tonight I started something where I lead by example for the other mods that still don't fully understand the position in which they find themselves. Hopefully I can eventually stop having to be so hands-on.
concerned1948 ago
Post about blood drinking age reversal and eye balls are left up but key suspects are being deleted ( not saying any are bad posts but just pointing out the hypocrisy in what is "relevant" according to you @Crensch ). Let the users decide. You are trying to baby us and we aren't liking it.
You are taking advantage of the rules when you see fit which leads me to believe you have an agenda and may be CTR or JIDF or CIA etc.
Crensch ago
Read the links I give you. This was already covered.
They did. On making rules for submissions.
Your lying and not reading the posts in the links I give you that explain my position, and proving that by harping on the same, already-covered topic suggest to me that your motives here are not pristine.
Crensch ago
Also, ping relevant users there. Use @username to do so, up to 5 in each comment.
I'm owner so that if KKWR gets a needle in his neck and disappeared, someone else can keep things rolling here.
Yes. KKWR made this sub for the kinds of users that want a place to share the fruits of their investigations, and this place was getting hammered from all sides for the first few days of the exodus. The users wanted troll posts, shitposts, and other things that did not further the investigation removed.
Users here have the option of having mods that obey the sidebar rules with posts and deletions, or having a free-for-all.
Crensch ago
@elliphantastic
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1457582/7042678
This is the situation we find ourselves in. Also, you're now on Voat, where we don't mince words.
Please see the sticky at /v/introductions.
Let me know if you have any questions.
concerned1948 ago
We have a lot of questions for you @Crensch but you keep deleting them. You don't want to answer them.
Crensch ago
Well, ask away, and then delete this submission as it's against the subverse rules, if you would please.
Crensch ago
Ask away.
betadynamique ago
God wants Crench to watch this entire video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYwUDEKPzMQ
concerned1948 ago
I will watch it too. Thank you.
concerned1948 ago
Why did @kingkongwaswrong Crensch the owner?
kingkongwaswrong ago
crensch is a moderator at /v/protectvoat - and was one of the first to recognise the issues i was dealing with, in terms of shill attacks, migrating users, setting up a new sub and adapting to voat culture. He worked closely with me to help set up rules that would both help our investigation, and sit ok with the existing voat community.
I trust @crensch a lot and we needed redundancy - so that if i get disappeared, there is someone to step in.
@crensch is 100% against censorship. I strongly trust that if he deleted your posts it was because you were not following the rules in some way.
If you have an issue, please post the threads that were deleted, and ping myself and @crensch in them and we can have a look.
What I would suggest though, is to go back over the rules, and your posts, and try to figure out if you might have missed something. Then potentially you can repost in a way that aligns with the rules.
but without seeing the posts I can't say what the issue is.
@blunts21 for you as well