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UglyTruth ago

the eye has Madeleines exact flaw

It's close, but Madeleine has a solid bar at around 6 oclock while the girl in the Podesta photo has a thin line which appears more to the left. Also the girl's right eye has a similar line, so these could just be artifacts... Images at link

http://forum.clonehost.net/post/422

justanotherone ago

I completely disagree, the flaw is at about 6:45 in both, the problem is the image with Podesta is from above and somewhat side on, so this gives an angle that must be corrected for.

I tried again to make sure the eyes were rotated to the same angle and it again matches. https://i.sli.mg/8UEZf4.png

I disagree that it is an image artifact, except for the other eye which has too little visible to know what we are looking at.

Consider too that this is not a case in isolation, this is not the only evidence. They are clearly Pedo's. He deleted his emails over that tie to the day, that is extremely pointed! What are the odds of this being by chance? Almost none! He vacations in Portugal, lots of people haven't, but wait there are reports he was there at the time (there are 3 sources that say that), at a home near the McCann's, in a house of a Pedo (who wasn't there at the time) who bothered to ingratiate himself with the McCann's, very suspicious!

And then the girl looks like Madeleine, is the right age range and a template drawn on the mother fits Madeleine.

So with the eye having the flaw at what IMO is the right angle (also grant some imperfections in the camera and aging) and IMO this is exceedingly probably that she is Madeleine, if not he still obviously took her (better than 99.9% chance).

So anything is possible but this is not debunked, like everything it's less that absolutely perfect, people can always find crap to argue about.

Oh, and the FBI guy reportedly mentioned "Cards" as something to look out for, this is the only thing that fits so it seems he thinks it's her, not proof but that also suggests it's not easily debunked.

UglyTruth ago

Yes, possibly the difference between the images is due to the camera angle relative to the eye direction, but saying that one eye matches and the other is an artifact is special pleading, a symptom of confirmation bias.

I agree that there's a lot of evidence that Podesta is involved in a paedophile ring, but you're reaching to say that he deleted his emails, they could have been pre-filtered by whoever gave them to WikiLeaks to make it look like he had deleted them. The efits are a very good match, but the witnesses said they didn't get a good look at the guy so they are from an unknown source. The reports that he was in Portugal at the time can't be verified.

I agree that it's highly suspicious and I agree that Podesta could have been involved in the abduction of Madeleine, but due to the circumstantial nature of the evidence and the possibility of a fit-up I believe that we should keep our options open.

Yes, people can always find crap to argue about. The main point I'd like to make is that the facts should drive the theory, and that we should ammend the theory rather than try to force-fit the facts to a particular theory that we've become attached to.

justanotherone ago

Face remains that this girl certainly has some flaw in her eye at about the same angle, which having eye colour about the same, being about the same age and having looks that match very well.

I grant you I had early considered that the efits were too good to not be fit to the Podestas, but I was talking to someone on FB and he had kept track of the case, read the books or at least knew of details in banned books on the subject and he said it was known John Podesta and his brother were in the country at the time but they didn't know if he was in that part of the country.

Then later 2 sources, one FBI and one Police apparently con firmed that Podesta was in the country and in the area, staying at Clement's house.

Sure, I also considered that the emails might have been held back by another party, but IMO that sounds like it is stretching credulity more than a little.

We know for a fact Podesta visits Portugal. We know for a fact (given all the evidence) he is a Pedo and all round sicko.

People have been sent to jail on a lot less. If it's not Madeleine then a DNA test should be easily secured.

Circumstantial evidence is valid and this is beyond being waved away entierly, it's not all false and a big setup to make this pedo loo like a bigger pedo than he is.