it's all old hat though. If you are as old as me, it's been there done that ...no sacrificed babies have yet been dug up under the floorboards, despite decades of these stories. I honestly think many of the people who believe it are having some sort of paranoid delusion. the cult / occult/ SRA stories are very characteristic. But the evidence is not there and seldom has been. I am not denying kids are abused terribly, but 90 percent of them are abused by their own family or trusted family friends....there is no conspiracy... except the one in your heads.

credibility? what credibility? I looked into this whole Pizzagate thing with an open mind, honestly, but now I am finding it just one massive, huge, enormous ..... F A C E P A L M

Agreed - "Boy who cried wolf" syndrome is real here lol.

FUCKIN' A!

BREAKING!! NO ONE IN POWER SEEMS TO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT!

Meta: Most of the posts in NEW are getting down voted into minus votes. Seconds upon being posted.

I agree. We are not here to get attention for ourselves. We are here for the children. Don't forget about that. Refrain from boasting. Stay objective and level headed about the relative importance of what you are reporting before getting all over the place with click bait titles in large caps. Of course if you find the real ultimate smoking gun, make sure that it gets the attention it deserves. But so far, most claims of smoking guns including the current sticky are complete let downs.

Agree 100%. Since I started following /v/pizzagate I mostly see histerical posts written in capital letters.

We see how crappy mainstream corpo media is. Citizens acting has the power to eliminate this horrible system pretending to be news and force it into accountability and force coverage of topics that are not in their talking points.

Thinking you figured out the global illuminati alien pedo cabal does not have this power to help. Adjust meds accordingly.

TUNNELS! TUNNELS! WHERES THE BASEMENT! THAT BATHROOM PHOTO LOOKS LIKE AN ALIEN! SO ALIENS ARE BEHIND THIS! SPIRITCOOKING!

At the top right now is the 240 quadrillion money laundering cabal with SMOKING GUN

OMG thank you for saying this. We understand you want your contribution to get attention. Sucks that we gotta use click-bait to get this stuff seen, but within reason.

We shouldn't have to say things like this. People need to be a bit more grounded about this investigation and stop acting like every stacking piece of circumstantial evidence is going to get us anywhere.

I'm fully ready and willing to accept it. I just don't want to put the cart before the horse.

Edit: also the "anti-semite" label is a powerful weapon the MSM will use to crush us

It looks like the mods are on top of tagging posts with "breakthrough" and such, so there's no need to try to advertise that a post is "BREAKING!" in the title.

yes please - make it a rule

and until i see someone pointing a finger at the catholic church, the whole blame the jews point is moot

BREAKING: OP is a FAGGOT for #PIZZA

I agree completely. I just mean as an abstract that it's my emotions that seek vengeance; and my intellect seeks to dismantle the power the criminals have in order to stop it from coming back - and to cut off the retreat as well - because it is virtually assured that not all will be punished - for that reason I don't think anyone involve can afford the luxury of feelings or attachment to specific people being punished. They'll start killing their own the closer we get anyway.

Sorry/thanks for the tangent, I'm not sure who to say it to - I just think this pursuit needs to be relentless, and I'm thinking about how to ensure its sustainability.

BREAKING: BOMBSHELL SMOKING GUN etc. etc.

Yeah, click-bait should stay on Buzzfeed, it only hurts long term credibility

Ultimately, if we can change the way human communication is structured for the better, then it will be a greater gain than punishing crimes already committed. Stopping future child abuse is more important to me than the satisfaction I would have seeing people hang for the past. The subject matter is what makes it nearly impossible to be objective - at once we are fighting for both justice, and to preserve our foothold on the very process of seeking that justice. I hope my rhetoric doesn't detract, but it seems like the mainspring of this is our ability to police ourselves; I have to call it revolution, with all the pitfalls that carries.

I agree. The phrase 'smoking gun' should be reserved for evidence that, if submitted to authorities, would lead to an arrest. While something may be a breakthrough, it's not a smoking gun unless it meets that criteria.

NO!

Agree - the first priority (of open-sourced research in general) should be the total annihilation of sensationalism in this endeavour, since that is essentially the abstract enemy we face together. The primary obstacle that lays between us and justice. The strength of this comes from a better way that people are thinking and communicating in my view, and as the paradigm itself shifts, victory becomes more likely, a steady march towards a justice that quells the hysteria of these times. A witch hunt will get us back to square one.

Absolutely agreed. I'm relatively new here, but I see this "smoking gun" stuff constantly. And while a lot of it is good, it's not something that is going to land someone in jail. Sadly, to my knowledge, nobody has uncovered anything like that so far.

We need hard evidence. We need proof of physical crimes. Just knowing a lot of these sick fucks are pedophiles isn't doing much.

Absolutely agree- So irritating and such a waste of our time.

I concur.